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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    At least it would have been honest.
    In today's world of politics, one has come to expect more honesty out of a used car salesman than a politician. Regardless of party.
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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    I'm really beginning to believe that all this failure is by design.
    I have CDO, it's like OCD but the letters are in alphabetical order like they should be.

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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    In today's world of politics, one has come to expect more honesty out of a used car salesman than a politician. Regardless of party.
    Trying to find a honest politician is like trying to find a palm tree in the artic circle.

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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    It is disappointing Obama did not go for the UHC from the start.
    because it wouldn't pass so now he is trying to back door it by demonizing insurance companies for abiding by the rules, but it will backfire because what sane American will trust government to run all of health care when they cant even get this right

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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Even with a super majority in the Congress he just didn't have the votes to get such passed. He knew that, and knew it well in advance, having stated previously that it would need to be a multi-year process to get the public into a point where it'd accepted and welcome a Single Payer system as the primary means of health care in the country
    Also from what I read and heard, this plan was a rush, rush job to get through congress. The Democrats wanted it passed before Scott Brown was seated in the senate replacing Teddy Kennedy who had just died. Thus lowering the Democrats 60 vote filibuster proof majority to 59. I am sure there is much more than just that, but it is one reason for the rush job that make sense to me.
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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    thanks guys. Well I guess that's another hole that will need to be plugged huh?
    Obama has a crack team designing a plug...
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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    because it wouldn't pass so now he is trying to back door it by demonizing insurance companies for abiding by the rules, but it will backfire because what sane American will trust government to run all of health care when they cant even get this right
    Well...if the word out of Chicago is correct, the 'back door' is probably what he is most comfortable with.

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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    I'm really beginning to believe that all this failure is by design.
    That's a possibility. I mean, if you want to take control of something, what better way than to **** it up beyond any semblance of recognition, then proclaim that the whole system needs to be scrapped, and that you have a working solution?
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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
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    Re: Top hospitals opt out of ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Trying to find a honest politician is like trying to find a palm tree in the artic circle.
    You gave me my laugh for today. Yep, exactly right. When either party tries to push their political agenda, truth or even a sliver of truth has been cast aside a long time ago. All sorts of shenanigans will occur. Some one asked me yesterday if the the president actually believed what he was saying was the truth with the period added for emphasis. I replied, I believed he wanted to believe that he was telling the truth and wanted to believe it so much he actually believed he was telling the truth.

    I hope I remembered that right as I thought my reply was kind of comical.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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