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    I agree that Obama is a poor administrator. He makes too many political choices (at which he is good) instead of using Meritocracy for administration. That's why I did not vote for him in 2012.

    The whole system is terribly flawed and the original concept was created in a much different world. I doubt it will get better no matter which performer we elect in the future.

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    "No one was in charge with any experience in complex business start-ups." Obama don't know start-ups.

    No one in charge who understands business. Obama don't know Business.

    No one in charge who takes responsibility. Obama don't know Responsibility.

    The buck stops there... somewhere. Obama knows jive talk'in.

    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: CBS: Memo reveals adviser warned W.H. was losing control 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I agree that Obama is a poor administrator. He makes too many political choices (at which he is good) instead of using Meritocracy for administration. That's why I did not vote for him in 2012.

    The whole system is terribly flawed and the original concept was created in a much different world. I doubt it will get better no matter which performer we elect in the future.
    we need a viable 3rd party, the duopoly is an utter failure, and not fixable
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    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    we need a viable 3rd party, the duopoly is an utter failure, and not fixable
    I could not agree more and indeed I voted 3rd party in 2012. But the game is rigged and it's the only game in town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I could not agree more and indeed I voted 3rd party in 2012. But the game is rigged and it's the only game in town.
    it is. it is amazing the number of Americans I hear that complain about "politics as usual" ( or similar)
    then say they don't want to waste their vote on a 3rd party..
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    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    it is. it is amazing the number of Americans I hear that complain about "politics as usual" ( or similar)
    then say they don't want to waste their vote on a 3rd party..
    I'm sure Bill Clinton would agree with you. Voting for a 3rd party Ross Perot got him elected.

    Then we could really have a polarized country potentially electing a POTUS who doesn't get close to half of the country's support.

    I guess a third party could ensure no candidate received 270 electoral votes needed to become president.

    Then what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    I'm sure Bill Clinton would agree with you. Voting for a 3rd party Ross Perot got him elected.
    As much I would appreciate a competitive third Party, one might help get McAuliffe elected in VA tomorrow and that ain't good.
    A Party replacement would be much better.

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    Re: CBS: Memo reveals adviser warned W.H. was losing control 3 years ago

    Every time one pops up, both parties and the media conspire to destroy it. Look at the Tea Party.

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    Re: CBS: Memo reveals adviser warned W.H. was losing control 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    I'm sure Bill Clinton would agree with you. Voting for a 3rd party Ross Perot got him elected.

    Then we could really have a polarized country potentially electing a POTUS who doesn't get close to half of the country's support.

    I guess a third party could ensure no candidate received 270 electoral votes needed to become president.

    Then what?
    we don't now if Perot threw the race to Clinton - if it did, fantastic. Better then GWB for another term.

    But to the larger point, the MS partys are giving us candidates like Romney & Obama - both either incompetant, or plutocratic.

    Its frankly amazing (yet again) that you actually prefer this sameness, hyperpartisan gridlock.

    It's not just the presidential election, that is important, it's also the Congress that needs a break from the duopoly;
    where a viable 3rd parrty could force a coaltion type governing


    PS to "then what" it goes to the House of Representatives.
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    Re: CBS: Memo reveals adviser warned W.H. was losing control 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    we don't now if Perot threw the race to Clinton - if it did, fantastic. Better then GWB for another term.
    Perot caused Clinton to win.

    Bush41 blew it by trying to get along with the Socialists, and raising taxes after his pledge, No New Taxes. People were pissed, and decided to punish Bush when an alternative appeared in the form of Perot. Republicans cannot get away with such lies. Clinton was allowed to lie, and lie and lie... just like Obama. One difference... when it came to HillaryKare, she helped cause a massive, historic midterm defeat. Then she went back to baking cookies.

    Clinton was politically savvy, had the luck of the tech bubble, and was an all around louse. His scandal of the month had their roots... in his lying ways and the dregs he hired.

    Read Christopher Hitchens Nobody Left to Lie To.


    But to the larger point, the MS partys are giving us candidates like Romney & Obama - both either incompetant, or plutocratic.
    There is nothing wrong with wealth if the person is competent. The line in the sand should be competence and upholding the Constitution. Obama fails both tests.

    Its frankly amazing (yet again) that you actually prefer this sameness, hyperpartisan gridlock.
    This gridlock goes back to 1994... when the Socialists lost everything. When 40-years of running the government came to a halt. Since then they've taken no prisoners... and Team Pravda has assisted as much as humanly possible. When they were rolling the R's... life was sweet.

    We need to rollback the idiocy the Socialists created, and that requires fighting them at every turn. It's great when Republicans stand up for Republican principles. The time for compromise is long dead... 17Trillion of debt and 60Trillion of unfunded liabilities... we need serious men and women in there fixing the problem; that means dismantling the Socialist state over time so future generations don't end up with a Detriotized Amerika.

    It's not just the presidential election, that is important, it's also the Congress that needs a break from the duopoly;
    where a viable 3rd parrty could force a coaltion type governing
    I am all for 3rd parties, so long as they divide the Socialists vote.
    Last edited by zimmer; 11-05-13 at 06:37 AM.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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