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    Re: Obama's health promises backfire

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You again are making the falacy of thinking Dem = Liberal and Republican = conservatism. That is flat out false, we are talking liberalism and conservatism here. Conservatives fought to keep blacks and women from voting, liberals did not.

    Keep up son, you're failing.
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    No I don't think liberalism is perfect and I even stated examples of it going to far (i.e. gun control, soda size bans, etc). You on the other hand have not said one damn thing bad about conservatism that I've seen here. Both conservatism and liberalism are needed in a successful country.

    Care to show us the faults of conservatism or do you truly believe there aren't any?
    What is to fault about Conservatism, a philosophy that embraces human rights, equality under the law, and limited government. Unlike Libs who strive for equality of results, keep minorities and women down even when their programs have proven themselves to be miserable failures, and class warfare to name a few of the jewels in the Libs Crown.

    What are the redeeming qualities of being a Lib? Certainly not open mindedness. You illustrated that earlier.
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    Re: Obama's health promises backfire

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Ignoring the education offered you I see about Blacks, women's rights and the Republican record.
    As you were.
    And as they always will be. Again we see those who define themselves as 'liberal' ignoring facts, ignoring history and remaining, despite all the evidence to the contrary, in a cemented point of view.

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    Re: Obama's health promises backfire

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    "You like your insurance you can keep it"

    "Read my lips, no new taxes"
    This is one of these rare times that I agree with you. However, when Bush Sr. said "read my lips", he meant it at the time, but circumstances made him reevaluate his position. However, there is sufficient evidence that Obama knew that some people would not be able to keep their insurance when he said they could keep it if they liked it. Obama lied in order to pass the ACA. And to all of you who are about to call me a right wing hack for posting this, I have no axe to grind for either Democrats or Republicans. Hell, I actually signed up for Obamacare. But a lie is a lie, and I don't like it when a leader, either Republican or Democrat lies to me. I didn't like it when Bush lied, and I don't like it when Obama lies. My leaders need to be honest with me, or I do not respect them. Obama is a liar.

    And Sawyer, you missed a quote....

    Bill Clinton: "I did not have sex with that health plan".
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    Re: Obama's health promises backfire

    People will end up with insurance, though it may be different from what they had..
    It may cost more, the same, or less depending on your circumstances..
    My concern is now with the state-by state roll-out which should help, one at a time .
    Physics is Phun

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    Re: Obama's health promises backfire

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This is one of these rare times that I agree with you. However, when Bush Sr. said "read my lips", he meant it at the time, but circumstances made him reevaluate his position. However, there is sufficient evidence that Obama knew that some people would not be able to keep their insurance when he said they could keep it if they liked it. Obama lied in order to pass the ACA. And to all of you who are about to call me a right wing hack for posting this, I have no axe to grind for either Democrats or Republicans. Hell, I actually signed up for Obamacare. But a lie is a lie, and I don't like it when a leader, either Republican or Democrat lies to me. I didn't like it when Bush lied, and I don't like it when Obama lies. My leaders need to be honest with me, or I do not respect them. Obama is a liar.

    And Sawyer, you missed a quote....

    Bill Clinton: "I did not have sex with that health plan".
    I'm glad you agree with me, it's a good sign You and others missed my point a little bit though with that quote comparison. What I meant was "like your insurance you can keep it, period" will follow Obama and stick to him just like "read my lips" stuck to bush.

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    Re: Obama's health promises backfire

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    That seems to be the new Obama line.
    Just another lie from that administration that has stuck with the non-thinkers.
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