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Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

I really quit reading at bigoted. You obviously failed reading comprehension.

It is deeply bigoted. The notion that the only way to bring peace to the region is to murder every single Muslim is not only disgusting it is tremendously wrong.

Because we didnt kill every Japanese citizen in the world. As long as there are muslims, there will be war. Your words. Not mine.
 
Haqqani Network

"The most dangerous and capable group within the larger Taliban movement is the Haqqanis," a senior ISAF Joint Command official involved in planning counter-insurgency operations told NBC News, describing them as the "most successful" militants in the region.

Due to their wealth and deep links to local tribes and, one Western diplomat called the Haqqanis "the Kennedys of the Taliban movement."

The Pakistan-based Haqqanis are among the United States' most feared enemies in Afghanistan. They have been blamed for many of the more than 2,000 U.S. military deaths in the country.

Operating in the "P2K" -- U.S. military-speak for the eastern Paktia, Paktika and Khost provinces -- the Haqqanis are violent, well-organized and deeply embedded in the Taliban movement, according to Western officials.

“The Haqqani network is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Taliban," the senior ISAF official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. "This is not the case of ‘oh, my crazy uncle, we don’t really talk about him, and I apologize for his actions.’ It is not like that.”

The Haqqanis established themselves as key players in the region during the war against the Soviet Union after the 1979 invasion of Afghanistan.

They are led by Sirajuddin Haqqani, the son of the now-retired Jalaluddin Haqqani -- a former mujahedeen commander.


The Haqqanis have created a new axis of insurgency in the "tribal arc" from Pakistan’s Waziristan all the way to Kabul.

In the 13th year of the conflict in Afghanistan - the longest international military engagement in American history - with most Western forces set to withdraw by 2014, the Taliban movement has evolved.

In Afghanistan, the Taliban is fighting a very different insurgency than the regime that was easily displaced by U.S. forces in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.

The Afghan Taliban remains the "core" insurgent movement operating in Afghanistan’s southern provinces and the east, with increasing activity in the north-east as well as Kabul’s surrounding areas and even the capital itself.


According to Mullah Waqeel Ahmad Motawaqil, a former foreign minister of the Taliban regime who previously served as MullahOmar's chief-of-staff, the Afghan Taliban is a complex and highly organized movement.

They work as a “multifaceted military, political, cultural, administrative and religious insurgency, with a key component being the shadow government and its committees and sub-committees overseeing the group’s religious and military objectives in every province in Afghanistan," Motawagil said.

Wahid Mojdah, a former Taliban official and an expert on the insurgency, described the Taliban as "like a sect, a group of people dependent on the leader.



"They accept Mullah Omar as the Commander of the Faithful," he added. "If they do not accept this they will be committing a sin. This is something very different from other parties and militant groups. And this is what keeps the movement going from the north of Pakistan to the south of Afghanistan."

Mojdah estimated that between 10,000 and 30,000 Taliban fighters are operating in eastern and southern Afghanistan. A senior ISAF official would not provide an estimate, but admitted that the insurgency is strong "enough to maintain a level of violence."

Most experts agree that today's Taliban is capable of carrying out a more lethal standard of operations.

While Western education was banned by the earlier regime, the modern Taliban propaganda machine uses the Internet skilfully.

"The new Taliban recruit is more educated than the older one," said Motawakil. "He can use the Internet. He may be running a pharmacy. He may even be letting his sisters go to the local school. But there is no salary, no benefits, just the motivation to expel the foreign invaders.”

Operationally, Taliban tactics have evolved, too, mimicking those of Western special forces that they have been battling for over a decade.

One former special forces operative from a NATO country told NBC News that “complex attacks, probing, using kids as carriers, magnetic bombs, leaving caches of weapons in abandoned buildings, diversionary tactics, wearing Western clothing."

He added: "These guys have picked up stuff from us that makes them a totally different animal than the one which used to ride in the back of Toyota pick-up trucks, an AK-47 in one hand, a Quran in the other.”

Major General Reinhardt Golks, the deputy commander of ISAF’s Joint Command, said the Taliban appeared to be focusing on fewer "higher quality" incidents "with higher impact on the population."
Drone strike aftermath: Militant 'Kennedys' pose bigger threat than Pakistani Taliban - World News

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That sounds like what liberals said about Iraq. But that was different.....yeah, totally different....:roll:

Bush sent 200,000 Americans as targets for Alqeada in Iraq and then said "Bring it on". So yes that WAS different.
Drones deny the terrorists targets for martyrdom and demoralize rather than energize.
 
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It is deeply bigoted. The notion that the only way to bring peace to the region is to murder every single Muslim is not only disgusting it is tremendously wrong.

Because we didnt kill every Japanese citizen in the world. As long as there are muslims, there will be war. Your words. Not mine.

I am not advocating it, just telling what it would take. Get a grip.
 
I am not advocating it, just telling what it would take. Get a grip.

I never said you advocated it, I said 'the notion' which means conception or belief, which is what you think. It is ludicrous and bigoted.
 
Because we didnt kill every Japanese citizen in the world. As long as there are muslims, there will be war.

So you are of the 'all Muslims are terrorists' school? I don't think so. Some thought the same of the Japanese also, but that proved to be wrong.
 
The leader of the Pakistani Taliban, Hakimullah Mehsud, has been killed in a US drone strike sources are confirming to the BBC.

BBC News - Hakimullah Mehsud killed by drone, Pakistan Taliban say

Again??? How many times do we have to kill the leader of the Taliban before he's dead? Don't they kill him about twice a month? And the net gain is.....?




The net gain is to get the public thinking that there's never an end so that they can excuse infinity war.
 
Keep quoting and making assumptions. Its what you seem good at.
 
Re: Haqqani Network

"The most dangerous and capable group within the larger Taliban movement is the Haqqanis," a senior ISAF Joint Command official involved in planning counter-insurgency operations told NBC News, describing them as the "most successful" militants in the region.

Due to their wealth and deep links to local tribes and, one Western diplomat called the Haqqanis "the Kennedys of the Taliban movement."

The Pakistan-based Haqqanis are among the United States' most feared enemies in Afghanistan. They have been blamed for many of the more than 2,000 U.S. military deaths in the country.

Operating in the "P2K" -- U.S. military-speak for the eastern Paktia, Paktika and Khost provinces -- the Haqqanis are violent, well-organized and deeply embedded in the Taliban movement, according to Western officials.

“The Haqqani network is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Taliban," the senior ISAF official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. "This is not the case of ‘oh, my crazy uncle, we don’t really talk about him, and I apologize for his actions.’ It is not like that.”

The Haqqanis established themselves as key players in the region during the war against the Soviet Union after the 1979 invasion of Afghanistan.

They are led by Sirajuddin Haqqani, the son of the now-retired Jalaluddin Haqqani -- a former mujahedeen commander.


The Haqqanis have created a new axis of insurgency in the "tribal arc" from Pakistan’s Waziristan all the way to Kabul.

In the 13th year of the conflict in Afghanistan - the longest international military engagement in American history - with most Western forces set to withdraw by 2014, the Taliban movement has evolved.

In Afghanistan, the Taliban is fighting a very different insurgency than the regime that was easily displaced by U.S. forces in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.

The Afghan Taliban remains the "core" insurgent movement operating in Afghanistan’s southern provinces and the east, with increasing activity in the north-east as well as Kabul’s surrounding areas and even the capital itself.


According to Mullah Waqeel Ahmad Motawaqil, a former foreign minister of the Taliban regime who previously served as MullahOmar's chief-of-staff, the Afghan Taliban is a complex and highly organized movement.

They work as a “multifaceted military, political, cultural, administrative and religious insurgency, with a key component being the shadow government and its committees and sub-committees overseeing the group’s religious and military objectives in every province in Afghanistan," Motawagil said.

Wahid Mojdah, a former Taliban official and an expert on the insurgency, described the Taliban as "like a sect, a group of people dependent on the leader.



"They accept Mullah Omar as the Commander of the Faithful," he added. "If they do not accept this they will be committing a sin. This is something very different from other parties and militant groups. And this is what keeps the movement going from the north of Pakistan to the south of Afghanistan."

Mojdah estimated that between 10,000 and 30,000 Taliban fighters are operating in eastern and southern Afghanistan. A senior ISAF official would not provide an estimate, but admitted that the insurgency is strong "enough to maintain a level of violence."

Most experts agree that today's Taliban is capable of carrying out a more lethal standard of operations.

While Western education was banned by the earlier regime, the modern Taliban propaganda machine uses the Internet skilfully.

"The new Taliban recruit is more educated than the older one," said Motawakil. "He can use the Internet. He may be running a pharmacy. He may even be letting his sisters go to the local school. But there is no salary, no benefits, just the motivation to expel the foreign invaders.”

Operationally, Taliban tactics have evolved, too, mimicking those of Western special forces that they have been battling for over a decade.

One former special forces operative from a NATO country told NBC News that “complex attacks, probing, using kids as carriers, magnetic bombs, leaving caches of weapons in abandoned buildings, diversionary tactics, wearing Western clothing."

He added: "These guys have picked up stuff from us that makes them a totally different animal than the one which used to ride in the back of Toyota pick-up trucks, an AK-47 in one hand, a Quran in the other.”

Major General Reinhardt Golks, the deputy commander of ISAF’s Joint Command, said the Taliban appeared to be focusing on fewer "higher quality" incidents "with higher impact on the population."
Drone strike aftermath: Militant 'Kennedys' pose bigger threat than Pakistani Taliban - World News

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It seems that would have been a great place for some strategic carpet bombing but because we were after 'hearts and minds' rather than eliminating the enemy, the threat has only grown greater.
 
lol someone said that all Muslims need to be killed. God, this site makes me weep for democracy.
 
Quote where someone one said "all muslims need to be killed", or you are just another liar.

Quote where I said you said it, or you're just another liar.

See, two can play the vagueness game. It's so fun!
 
Quote where someone one said "all muslims need to be killed", or you are just another liar.

Didn't you say that "As long as there are muslims, there will be war" and then added "I am not advocating it, just telling what it would take"?

It seems that your position is that in order to stop a war with Islam all Muslims would have to be killed.
 
Didn't you say that "As long as there are muslims, there will be war" and then added "I am not advocating it, just telling what it would take"?

It seems that your position is that in order to stop a war with Islam all Muslims would have to be killed.
Sorry, but that is what it would take. You may not like it, but its the bare truth.
My idea to stop OUR war with the muslims is to leave the region all together.
But feel free to read into it what you want.
 
Sorry, but that is what it would take. You may not like it, but its the bare truth.
My idea to stop OUR war with the muslims is to leave the region all together.
But feel free to read into it what you want.

The bare truth is that as long as any Muslim lives there will be war. Is that your position?

Leaving the region is one consideration but which region do you refer to? Given that there are now Muslims almost everywhere in the world it might be possible to leave regions where they are in control but can they leave non Muslim regions? And although you may want peace with Islam, Muslims may not want peace with you, which is what you may have meant by your earlier remarks about having to kill so many of them.

Can you think of a way to end this war with Islam in order that our children needn't be fearful of Islamic terrorism?
 
The bare truth is that as long as any Muslim lives there will be war. Is that your position?

Leaving the region is one consideration but which region do you refer to? Given that there are now Muslims almost everywhere in the world it might be possible to leave regions where they are in control but can they leave non Muslim regions? And although you may want peace with Islam, Muslims may not want peace with you, which is what you may have meant by your earlier remarks about having to kill so many of them.

Can you think of a way to end this war with Islam in order that our children needn't be fearful of Islamic terrorism?
If total infinite war is to be waged and the terror threat ended completely and forever. Yes, I am afraid any muslims will have to die.
Seeing as they can be radicalized at almost any age to follow the twisted version of the Quran where they believe all non muslims must die.
As much as you may think that makes me bigoted, even though you cant prove Iam, its the only way.
But I also said as a nation, we will not allow ourselves the blood of a billion muslims on our our hands.
 
If total infinite war is to be waged and the terror threat ended completely and forever. Yes, I am afraid any muslims will have to die.
Seeing as they can be radicalized at almost any age to follow the twisted version of the Quran where they believe all non muslims must die.
As much as you may think that makes me bigoted, even though you cant prove Iam, its the only way.
But I also said as a nation, we will not allow ourselves the blood of a billion muslims on our our hands.

I never called you bigoted but don't believe for a second that a billion Muslims would have to die in order to prevent further terrorism. But I do believe that a well placed and significant bomb in any terrorist hot bed would have many Islamic militants reconsider their position.

Many Muslims already ignore parts of the Koran just as many Christians ignore parts of the Bible. I don't see why, with a little encouragement, Muslims can't come to the same conclusions as Christians.
 
I never called you bigoted but don't believe for a second that a billion Muslims would have to die in order to prevent further terrorism. But I do believe that a well placed and significant bomb in any terrorist hot bed would have many Islamic militants reconsider their position.

Many Muslims already ignore parts of the Koran just as many Christians ignore parts of the Bible. I don't see why, with a little encouragement, Muslims can't come to the same conclusions as Christians.
Define significant. A nuke? Yea, not going to happen. Ever.
Also define "encouragement". A single nuclear event, or total infinite conventional war?
 
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