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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I would argue that anyone who is out shooting at other human beings has lost something fundamental inside, so no, I don't think you won either. You survived.
    This is who said you lost.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I dont think I told you you lost anything.
    Oh, I apologize. Cephus said I did, specifically. You said that everyone who was involved lost, no?

    So that's obviously not the case.
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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What happen to diplomacy?
    **** being diplomatic with people who promote throwing acid in girls' faces for daring to get an education.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    One dead, 50 new fighters born. Great job.
    It's easier to take them out at 50 at a time then one at a time anyway. Those who have considered fighting for the glory of a religious fanatic might also be reconsidering their options.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Obviously you aren't aware that "war" to a Islamic extremist isn't a war they fight to win.

    Suicide killing in the name of Allah is their grandest achievement.

    Anyone who thinks this will stop Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, terrorism, or international distaste for American drone activity on foreign soil, is clutching to fool's gold in an over-eager attempt to feel like we are actually getting somewhere with all this.

    I should expect more wisdom in this forum. After 12 years nonetheless.
    What are you saying? That the Islamic aggressors are fighting to win but a free people shouldn't. I wouldn't worry too much abut 'international distaste'.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    No one needed affirmation that drones are effective killing machines. Murder can be an effective political strategy for the short tem. It is not proven that killing leads to long term peace, justice and stability.
    The Japanese and the Germans, now both peaceful stable nations, would not agree.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Japanese and the Germans, now both peaceful stable nations, would not agree.
    See, your post underlines the problem, Grant: people say the **** Hard Truth said and they honestly believe it. They believe it because it goes against "The Man" and so dumbasses from Occupy Wall Streeters to Tea Partiers all buy that same general nonsense.

    And they don't even know that it's not true.
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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    **** being diplomatic with people who promote throwing acid in girls' faces for daring to get an education.
    we don't have to be diplomatic; neither do we need to engage in their wars, or try to change their culture.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What are you saying? That the Islamic aggressors are fighting to win but a free people shouldn't. I wouldn't worry too much abut 'international distaste'.
    I just said they aren't fighting to win.

    They are fighting for Allah; or rather, a distorted version of Allah who wants them to kill as many infidels as possible, even if it means suicide bombing innocent civilians.

    In such a religiously charged climate, with education being minimal and poverty rampant, do you think the richest nation in the world killing the Pakistani leader of the Taliban is going to change anything?

    In other words, what are we fighting for exactly? What is the endgame? I do not wish to have this conversation again in 10 years, but people with your mindset make me acquiesce to the fact that we probably will, and you will pose the same argument and I will pose the same argument, meanwhile more death and wasted treasure with nothing to show for it.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    See, your post underlines the problem, Grant: people say the **** Hard Truth said and they honestly believe it. They believe it because it goes against "The Man" and so dumbasses from Occupy Wall Streeters to Tea Partiers all buy that same general nonsense.

    And they don't even know that it's not true.
    As long as they keep looking at a date of withdrawal from a conflict rather than winning the conflict, America will lose. We ( the Allies) have to do what we did to the Germans and Japanese before they finally quit. The defeat of the Germans in WWI wasn't enough to convince them that peace was preferable, and the Japanese were willing to die to the last person before conceding.

    It is the same with any war. Killing a few people here and there and announcing withdrawal dates will never convince an opponent to concede. In fact this novel attitude towards war is a sure-fire loser.

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