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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I really quit reading at bigoted. You obviously failed reading comprehension.
    It is deeply bigoted. The notion that the only way to bring peace to the region is to murder every single Muslim is not only disgusting it is tremendously wrong.

    Because we didnt kill every Japanese citizen in the world. As long as there are muslims, there will be war. Your words. Not mine.

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    Haqqani Network

    "The most dangerous and capable group within the larger Taliban movement is the Haqqanis," a senior ISAF Joint Command official involved in planning counter-insurgency operations told NBC News, describing them as the "most successful" militants in the region.

    Due to their wealth and deep links to local tribes and, one Western diplomat called the Haqqanis "the Kennedys of the Taliban movement."

    The Pakistan-based Haqqanis are among the United States' most feared enemies in Afghanistan. They have been blamed for many of the more than 2,000 U.S. military deaths in the country.

    Operating in the "P2K" -- U.S. military-speak for the eastern Paktia, Paktika and Khost provinces -- the Haqqanis are violent, well-organized and deeply embedded in the Taliban movement, according to Western officials.

    “The Haqqani network is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Taliban," the senior ISAF official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. "This is not the case of ‘oh, my crazy uncle, we don’t really talk about him, and I apologize for his actions.’ It is not like that.”

    The Haqqanis established themselves as key players in the region during the war against the Soviet Union after the 1979 invasion of Afghanistan.

    They are led by Sirajuddin Haqqani, the son of the now-retired Jalaluddin Haqqani -- a former mujahedeen commander.


    The Haqqanis have created a new axis of insurgency in the "tribal arc" from Pakistan’s Waziristan all the way to Kabul.

    In the 13th year of the conflict in Afghanistan - the longest international military engagement in American history - with most Western forces set to withdraw by 2014, the Taliban movement has evolved.

    In Afghanistan, the Taliban is fighting a very different insurgency than the regime that was easily displaced by U.S. forces in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.

    The Afghan Taliban remains the "core" insurgent movement operating in Afghanistan’s southern provinces and the east, with increasing activity in the north-east as well as Kabul’s surrounding areas and even the capital itself.


    According to Mullah Waqeel Ahmad Motawaqil, a former foreign minister of the Taliban regime who previously served as MullahOmar's chief-of-staff, the Afghan Taliban is a complex and highly organized movement.

    They work as a “multifaceted military, political, cultural, administrative and religious insurgency, with a key component being the shadow government and its committees and sub-committees overseeing the group’s religious and military objectives in every province in Afghanistan," Motawagil said.

    Wahid Mojdah, a former Taliban official and an expert on the insurgency, described the Taliban as "like a sect, a group of people dependent on the leader.



    "They accept Mullah Omar as the Commander of the Faithful," he added. "If they do not accept this they will be committing a sin. This is something very different from other parties and militant groups. And this is what keeps the movement going from the north of Pakistan to the south of Afghanistan."

    Mojdah estimated that between 10,000 and 30,000 Taliban fighters are operating in eastern and southern Afghanistan. A senior ISAF official would not provide an estimate, but admitted that the insurgency is strong "enough to maintain a level of violence."

    Most experts agree that today's Taliban is capable of carrying out a more lethal standard of operations.

    While Western education was banned by the earlier regime, the modern Taliban propaganda machine uses the Internet skilfully.

    "The new Taliban recruit is more educated than the older one," said Motawakil. "He can use the Internet. He may be running a pharmacy. He may even be letting his sisters go to the local school. But there is no salary, no benefits, just the motivation to expel the foreign invaders.”

    Operationally, Taliban tactics have evolved, too, mimicking those of Western special forces that they have been battling for over a decade.

    One former special forces operative from a NATO country told NBC News that “complex attacks, probing, using kids as carriers, magnetic bombs, leaving caches of weapons in abandoned buildings, diversionary tactics, wearing Western clothing."

    He added: "These guys have picked up stuff from us that makes them a totally different animal than the one which used to ride in the back of Toyota pick-up trucks, an AK-47 in one hand, a Quran in the other.”

    Major General Reinhardt Golks, the deputy commander of ISAF’s Joint Command, said the Taliban appeared to be focusing on fewer "higher quality" incidents "with higher impact on the population."
    Drone strike aftermath: Militant 'Kennedys' pose bigger threat than Pakistani Taliban - World News

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That sounds like what liberals said about Iraq. But that was different.....yeah, totally different....
    Bush sent 200,000 Americans as targets for Alqeada in Iraq and then said "Bring it on". So yes that WAS different.
    Drones deny the terrorists targets for martyrdom and demoralize rather than energize.
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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    It is deeply bigoted. The notion that the only way to bring peace to the region is to murder every single Muslim is not only disgusting it is tremendously wrong.

    Because we didnt kill every Japanese citizen in the world. As long as there are muslims, there will be war. Your words. Not mine.
    I am not advocating it, just telling what it would take. Get a grip.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I am not advocating it, just telling what it would take. Get a grip.
    I never said you advocated it, I said 'the notion' which means conception or belief, which is what you think. It is ludicrous and bigoted.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I never said you advocated it, I said 'the notion' which means conception or belief, which is what you think. It is ludicrous and bigoted.
    Wrong. Fail. Hyperoble.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Because we didnt kill every Japanese citizen in the world. As long as there are muslims, there will be war.
    So you are of the 'all Muslims are terrorists' school? I don't think so. Some thought the same of the Japanese also, but that proved to be wrong.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I really quit reading at bigoted. You obviously failed reading comprehension.
    Read and learn.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I am not advocating it, just telling what it would take. Get a grip.
    You think it is necessary to kill every Muslim in the world?? First time I've ever heard that!

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    The leader of the Pakistani Taliban, Hakimullah Mehsud, has been killed in a US drone strike sources are confirming to the BBC.

    BBC News - Hakimullah Mehsud killed by drone, Pakistan Taliban say

    Again??? How many times do we have to kill the leader of the Taliban before he's dead? Don't they kill him about twice a month? And the net gain is.....?


    The net gain is to get the public thinking that there's never an end so that they can excuse infinity war.
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