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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    No, I won. I have a six figure job because of my experiences and I enjoyed my experiences there (Iraq and Mindanao, in my case) to such an extent that every couple years I volunteer every few years to go out to those locations.

    So apparently not everyone lost. This will require critical thinking, as opposed to just a blanket statement that now you want to defend to ridiculous extents in order to protect your viewpoint. Did you mean every nation-level actor?
    Not one of your friends were hit or killed? If so, good for you. You were lucky.
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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Not one of your friends were hit or killed? If so, good for you. You were lucky.
    No, some were. Does that mean I lost? Wouldn't that mean that virtually everyone loses at everything? My grandmother died in 1999. Does that mean I lost the 90s?

    My point is that saying stupid **** like "everyone loses" is a lazy platitude. It doesn't mean anything, and people say things like that when they can't or won't actually use their mind to create a solid argument.
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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    No, some were. Does that mean I lost? Wouldn't that mean that virtually everyone loses at everything? My grandmother died in 1999. Does that mean I lost the 90s?

    My point is that saying stupid **** like "everyone loses" is a lazy platitude. It doesn't mean anything, and people say things like that when they can't or won't actually use their mind to create a solid argument.
    When I lost a friend, I felt I lost. My friends life being cut short is a loss. Grandma dying at 89 is a good life. If you can't see the difference then there really is no helping you.
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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    When I lost a friend, I felt I lost. My friends life being cut short is a loss. Grandma dying at 89 is a good life. If you can't see the difference then there really is no helping you.
    Since we all lose friends, that means we all lose all the time, no matter what. So, again: it's meaningless.
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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Isn't that the theory the Russian's went with when they invaded and tried to hold Afghanistan?
    Yes, but they didn't invade Pakistan. Furthermore, the Soviets had to deal with factors that we don't - significant outside support for the mujahideen, and the fact that the insurgency itself was a popular resistance movement.
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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Killing the enemy isn't genocide.
    It is genocide, or close to it, when civilian areas are attacked with weapons of mass destruction such as nukes, fire bombs and deadly chemicals. One of the many problems with war is people get so angry and/or start to like killing so much that they go beyond military necessity and into mass murder, this happens to even the most "civilized" people.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I hope all future wars are fought with drones. I'd rather have our soldiers safely tucked away, operating the drones and guns and missiles, with a wobble stick, drinking a Mountain Dew.

    I find it puzzling that most of the drone critics seem to be conservatives. Their sympathy for the terrorists and softness on the fight against terrorism is so out of character.

    I wonder why that is?

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    Remote control killing with videogame type interfaces is likely to create even more indiscriminate killing since the killer has no human connection with the victims. (that appears to be the case with the drone video that Manning released] You might not like drones so much when they belong to our opponents and you and your loved ones are the target.

    Since the whole process is secret we don't know whether the people we kill intentionally (not to mention the unfortunate people who just happen to be in the area] actually deserve their fate. Many of the people the USA has imprisoned and tortured in Guantamo and elsewhere were later found to be innocent. There is certainly no reason to think that the victims in Yemen or Somalia ever intended to harm the USA.

    Obama has proven to not be anything resembling a liberal so I don't see why you feel a need to defend him. Extrajudicial murder away from the battlefield is as contrary to liberalism as you can get.

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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    It is genocide, or close to it, when civilian areas are attacked with weapons of mass destruction such as nukes, fire bombs and deadly chemicals. One of the many problems with war is people get so angry and/or start to like killing so much that they go beyond military necessity and into mass murder, this happens to even the most "civilized" people.

    I must have missed all those reports of "drone nukes"

    Do you stop at nothing in your support of terrorism?
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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    A nonsense platitude. I lay at your feat the unprecedented peace of Europe and the rise of the modern international order both of which were won by political and military conflict embarked upon by the Western democracies.
    I lay at your feet the genocide of the Native Americans. WWII was one of the few justifiable wars, but many non-combants were killed and many cities were needlessly destroyed by the allies during WWII solely for revenge or love of killing. It was not a 1OO% just victory. There never are.
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    Re: Head of the Pakistani Taliban Killed by US Drone Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I must have missed all those reports of "drone nukes"

    Do you stop at nothing in your support of terrorism?
    I never said that there are drone nukes. I never supported use of terrorism. If you disagree with me, or want to criticize my opinions, please stick to crticizing what I actually said, not what you imagine I said. You won't fool anyone with deception when my posts are right here for people to see for themselves.
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