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    Re: More than half of employer based coverage illegal on Jan 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    As to the part I bolded, that may kick you completely off coverage, and into the exchange. This is going to be a mess.
    That's another lie

    Changes to plans may result in a plan losing it's grandfathered status but it can't result in someone losing coverage altogether. Also, no one is forced to buy insurance through the exchange. People can buy into the very same plans directly through the insurer
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: More than half of employer based coverage illegal on Jan 1st

    The ACA is designed to justify denying major medical care to everyone but the higher middle class and upward. The PR on it all is possibly the most callous lie told in modern American history.

    If you are poor and "covered" under the ACA with "free" insurance - and need a $30,000 medical procedure? Unless you have as much as $17,000!! in cash do don't get the treatment.
    Even if you have the BEST "free" coverage under the ACA the LEAST you MUST have in CASH is $12,000!

    Since NO poor and virtually NO lower income people have $12,000 in cash, ALL major medical needs will be denied.

    BUT everyone debates the ACA based upon what Obama says it is - essentially 100% of which is a lie and diametrically opposite from the truth. Obama is the greatest shill Corporate America has had since the development of the railroads to the West.

    Obama and the ACA is not "liberal" nor "progressive." It is what he is, corporate fascism.

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    Re: More than half of employer based coverage illegal on Jan 1st

    Our insurance at work is changing significantly. They've added mental health care and some other care. The copays are going up considerably (doubling ir more) and the premiums are going up by 15%+

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    Re: More than half of employer based coverage illegal on Jan 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Our insurance at work is changing significantly. They've added mental health care and some other care. The copays are going up considerably (doubling ir more) and the premiums are going up by 15%+
    I suggest you take advantage of this new benefit
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: More than half of employer based coverage illegal on Jan 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Request denied
    Because you clearly don't understand it...What a joke.

    The provisions which created the SHOP program do not require any small business to drop it's current plan (if it even has one) contrary to your dishonest claim.
    No, but the regulations from CMS will. The report made to the administration said that their estimate was that up to 43% +/- of group offered plans through employer based coverage would lose their benefits. It's in black and white.

    Large businesses are not qualified to use SHOP.
    Because large business can self insure...Wouldn't want to piss off the donor base now would we.

    And businesses that use SHOP do not choose a plan for their employees. Instead, they merely indicate how much they are willing to contribute towards their employees coverage, and then their employees choose what coverage they want.
    Yes, it's the ACA exchange for small business. That's what I said it was.

    That's another lie
    No, it isn't...Are you like this in person?

    Changes to plans may result in a plan losing it's grandfathered status but it can't result in someone losing coverage altogether.
    Thanks for admitting I was right.

    Also, no one is forced to buy insurance through the exchange. People can buy into the very same plans directly through the insurer
    Good God you progressives are deceitful...You don't even know what you are arguing most of the time...All you have is jerkish behavior tell people that don't agree with you silliness, liars...You really are a waste of time.
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    Re: More than half of employer based coverage illegal on Jan 1st

    As expected, you response is filled with lies

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Because you clearly don't understand it...What a joke.



    No, but the regulations from CMS will. The report made to the administration said that their estimate was that up to 43% +/- of group offered plans through employer based coverage would lose their benefits. It's in black and white.
    Your claim that regs require plans to lose grandfather status have been debunked numerous times



    Because large business can self insure...Wouldn't want to piss off the donor base now would we.
    Any business can self-insure.



    Yes, it's the ACA exchange for small business. That's what I said it was.
    No, you were referring to the individual market, which is different. Stop posting lies

    Thanks for admitting I was right.
    You're wrong. Plans can change, but your claim that ACA forces changes which lose grandfathering is a lie
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: More than half of employer based coverage illegal on Jan 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    More racist hate and a clear display of how the racist haters are hoping for failure which could negatively effect their fellow Americans!

    Everybody needs to take notice who the haters are on this board and let them know they aren't fooling anybody anymore.
    Did you get mixed up and post this message on the wrong thread?

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    Re: More than half of employer based coverage illegal on Jan 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    As expected, you response is filled with lies



    Your claim that regs require plans to lose grandfather status have been debunked numerous times





    Any business can self-insure.





    No, you were referring to the individual market, which is different. Stop posting lies



    You're wrong. Plans can change, but your claim that ACA forces changes which lose grandfathering is a lie
    Blah, blah, blah....Your posting is worthless.
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    Re: More than half of employer based coverage illegal on Jan 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    The part that stuns me about this, is close to 100 million people might get the shaft here... I didn't see that in any of those shiny Obamacare brochures.
    Maybe the same companies who designed he websites did the brochures as well.

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    Re: More than half of employer based coverage illegal on Jan 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Blah, blah, blah....Your posting is worthless.
    I accept your surrender!
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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