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    Re: Shots Fired At LAX; Injuries Confirmed.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Really? REALLY? You're take on this is such that MURDERING A HUMAN is okay because you dislike the organization?

    I can't....words can't even describe.....
    You are surprised? I make jokes about the TSA but that guy was probably some kid's father, some lady's husband. Its sad.



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    Re: Shots Fired At LAX; Injuries Confirmed.....

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Killing a TSA officer is almost as horrific as stepping on a cockroach.
    just another joe trading time for money
    is there some other aspect of his life, some history, which causes him to be other than a victim
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    Re: Shots Fired At LAX; Injuries Confirmed.....

    No big deal in the land of the gun. About the best you Americans can expect now is that it's not your children who are getting blown away by gungoons while in their schools!

    Arm everybody over the age of 5 and make it mandatory that they are packing at all times. It's certain it will reduce the number of shootings! The NRA says so!

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    Re: Shots Fired At LAX; Injuries Confirmed.....

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Killing a TSA officer is almost as horrific as stepping on a cockroach.
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    Re: Shots Fired At LAX; Injuries Confirmed.....

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I wonder what happened to the guy who shot up the El Al booth. Those guys are known for getting even really fast. A guy I know very well had a criminal case that involved US-Israeli cooperation. He flew to Tel Aviv several times. He said the security was awesome without being bothersome. He had all sorts of clearance and credentials. The night before he left TA on an El Al flight, two security agents asked to meet him in his hotel room. They asked him all sorts of innocuous questions, he being a trained professional realized how good these agents were. and even though he was basically there as a top US law enforcement operative, they still interviewed him. No wonder people don't hijack their planes
    Here is the story from Wikipedia:
    On Thursday, July 4, 2002 at around 11:30 am, a lone gunman approached the El Al ticket counter at the Los Angeles International Airport, pulled out two pistols and started shooting at the 90 passengers standing in the line. Initially, the assailant killed 25-year-old Customer Service Agent Victoria Hen, who was standing behind the counter. Later, the assailant opened fire at the passengers as they huddled nearby and killed 46-year-old passenger Yaakov Aminov. In addition, he injured four other bystanders.
    After the gunman fired 10 bullets at the crowd, one of El Al's security guards, who was unarmed, managed to knock him down. Meanwhile, El Al's security officer, Chaim Sapir, ran to the scene but was stabbed by the assailant with a fighting knife. Despite this, Sapir managed to draw his pistol and kill the gunman
    To answer your question, he was dead in seconds. I didn't realize it was so long ago but as I recall the shooting took place on a Thursday and I was allowed to fly from LAX to Denver with a knife in my pocket on that Saturday.
    The incident really put the TSA on their toes huh?

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    Re: Shots Fired At LAX; Injuries Confirmed.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Here is the story from Wikipedia:


    To answer your question, he was dead in seconds. I didn't realize it was so long ago but as I recall the shooting took place on a Thursday and I was allowed to fly from LAX to Denver with a knife in my pocket on that Saturday.
    The incident really put the TSA on their toes huh?
    Was the TSA even really around in 2002? it gets a bit blurry that far back, but I thought they were still being formed...
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    Re: Shots Fired At LAX; Injuries Confirmed.....

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Was the TSA even really around in 2002? it gets a bit blurry that far back, but I thought they were still being formed...
    They we're formed in 2001 in response to 9/11. It was loosely organized.

    That's how my father got in, a navy vet worth 20 years in the service, without a degree, or any usable skill off an air craft carrier.

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    Re: Shots Fired At LAX; Injuries Confirmed.....

    I only did a search for "shia" in the thread and didn't find it, but the shooters surname make him likely Shia Muslim...

    I will read the thread when I have more time, but it does look like it could be another religious based attack.

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    Re: Shots Fired At LAX; Injuries Confirmed.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I think the word "bear " and the word "carry" are similar enough in definition to be construed as having the same meaning. Even by the SCOTUS.
    If that was true, than there would be no state where people couldn't openly carry firearms. That's not the case, therefore that's not an official reading of the Constitution.

    The hypothetical scenario that has been projected here was that the LAX shooter would have been "dropped" before he got off a shot if everyone at the airport was carrying a gun. I am exploring that contention to see if that is a realistic possibility. I am expanding that thought to see if this train of thinking could be applied to anywhere.
    What do you think? If everyone at LAX was carrying ( bearing ) a gun ...could this shooting of the TSA officers have been prevented?
    Hell, I think more people would be shooting at the TSA if they had guns. It's one of the reason I hardly ever fly. If I wanted to be groped, I'd join the Catholic Church.
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    Re: Shots Fired At LAX; Injuries Confirmed.....

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Was the TSA even really around in 2002? it gets a bit blurry that far back, but I thought they were still being formed...
    I looked it up ... At the time of this incident they had been around for nine months. At that time they were still under the Department of Transportation, not the Department of Homeland Security. Still less than a year since 9/11 and two days after a shoot out at that airport ...you would think they would be a little more diligent about checking passengers for weapons.

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