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    Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Here's the nuclear target map that was broadcast to Chinese citizens.



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    Here's a chilling look at a world power and government that has no respect for political correctness and has no concerns about being voted out of power. China is the dangerously toxic combination of being extreme socialist inside its borders, but full-scale capitalist to the outside world.

    You wonder how this was receivers from the Chinese viewers in their homes, and if this is a mere eventuality that is only a matter of time.

    Want to cut military spending and development? Think there's a real interest from China (and Russia) for real nuclear disarmament? And what trigger from the Middle East could perhaps set all this in motion?
    Alright.....China misses Chicago. Whew!

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    Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Alright.....China misses Chicago. Whew!
    LOL, not for long. They're working on it overtime.

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    Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Alright.....China misses Chicago. Whew!
    This might be what it takes to end the curse of the billy goat

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    Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Here's the nuclear target map that was broadcast to Chinese citizens.



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    Here's a chilling look at a world power and government that has no respect for political correctness and has no concerns about being voted out of power. China is the dangerously toxic combination of being extreme socialist inside its borders, but full-scale capitalist to the outside world.

    You wonder how this was receivers from the Chinese viewers in their homes, and if this is a mere eventuality that is only a matter of time.

    Want to cut military spending and development? Think there's a real interest from China (and Russia) for real nuclear disarmament? And what trigger from the Middle East could perhaps set all this in motion?
    Lol. Lol. Lol. I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the incessant China mil-tech fear that keeps getting cultivated.

    First of all not a lick of this is new. None of it. We've known exactly how many SSBN's and how many ****ty SLBM's they've had for years. Why? Because they are really, really bad at making them and they only have three and they have a lot of problems. We're pretty sure they've had several on-board explosions, they can barely make their SLBM's work properly (the JL-2 is really bad), and they keep most of them in port for maintenance and testing. This is a country that is still in the adolescent stages of an advanced military industry and mastering this technology has been painfully difficult.

    Secondly if it came to it we would crush them. The one or two they sent out are monitored almost immediately by US and allied naval pickets and would be sunk in the first few minutes of the war. We know where all of their land based launch sites and silos are located. In a first strike we could obliterate their nuclear deterrent. If we wanted to sink their submarines and dare them to launch a suicide strike on America (they wouldn't) we could do that too.

    Call us back in twenty years. The real concern about China has to do with their development of military capabilities to challenge control of their littoral zones and deny sea control to the US and our allies in their periphery.

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    Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    LOL, not for long. They're working on it overtime.
    More than you know.....Check this out.

    Mysterious Actions of Chinese Satellites Have Experts Guessing.....



    One of the trio of new Chinese satellites, Shiyan-7 (SY-7, Experiment 7), has since made a sudden maneuver. That satellite had already finished a series of orbital alterations that put it close to one of the companion satellites with which it was launched, the Chuangxin-3 (CX-3).

    "Suddenly, however, it made a surprise rendezvous with a completely different satellite, Shijian 7 (SJ-7, Practice 7), launched in 2005," noted Marcia Smith, a space policy analyst and founder and editor of SpacePolicyOnline.com.

    Soon after the July launch, it was known that one of the three satellites carried "a prototype manipulator arm to capture other satellites," a tool that might be "a predecessor of an arm destined to be aboard China's large space station, set for launch in 2020 or soon thereafter," wrote Bob Christy on zarya.info

    The mystery surrounding the recent launches fits the Chinese pattern, said Dean Cheng, a research fellow on Chinese political and security affairs at the Heritage Foundation in Washington, D.C.

    "Not sure why these are a surprise, other than that the Chinese don't tell us what they're going to do, so anything they do comes without a convenient press briefing," he said

    "But it is perhaps useful here to recall that the People's Republic of China remains intent upon establishing space dominance as part of their thinking about 'fighting and winning local wars under informationized conditions,'" Cheng said. And, even as the Chinese call for greater military-to-military contact with the United States, it's true "that they remain opaque, and that they pretty much refuse to engage the U.S. on military space issues.".....snip~


    Mysterious Actions of Chinese Satellites Have Experts Guessing

    Okay, we have so called experts pretty much saying.....yep this is what China does. Yet they can't figure out what the Chinese are up to. But a Simple map would kinda give all a clue. Personally I don't like seeing us taking a backseat to China or Russia when it comes to Space, the moon, Colonizing, or anything to do with whats in orbit around the planet.

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    Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Lol. Lol. Lol. I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the incessant China mil-tech fear that keeps getting cultivated.

    First of all not a lick of this is new. None of it. We've known exactly how many SSBN's and how many ****ty SLBM's they've had for years. Why? Because they are really, really bad at making them and they only have three and they have a lot of problems. We're pretty sure they've had several on-board explosions, they can barely make their SLBM's work properly (the JL-2 is really bad), and they keep most of them in port for maintenance and testing. This is a country that is still in the adolescent stages of an advanced military industry and mastering this technology has been painfully difficult.

    Secondly if it came to it we would crush them. The one or two they sent out are monitored almost immediately by US and allied naval pickets and would be sunk in the first few minutes of the war. We know where all of their land based launch sites and silos are located. In a first strike we could obliterate their nuclear deterrent. If we wanted to sink their submarines and dare them to launch a suicide strike on America (they wouldn't) we could do that too.

    Call us back in twenty years. The real concern about China has to do with their development of military capabilities to challenge control of their littoral zones and deny sea control to the US and our allies in their periphery.

    Here is how they are looking to get around some of that.



    New Chinese anti-satellite (ASAT) test could showcase an ability to reach medium-Earth orbit. Doing so, some analysts say, would underscore that country’s ability to place the constellation of U.S. Global Positioning System navigational at risk.....snip~

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    Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

    OMG !!!!

    They're all out to get us!!!!!

    Run!!! Scream!!! Hide!!!!!

    AAaaaghghghghghhhhh............

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    Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Here is how they are looking to get around some of that.



    New Chinese anti-satellite (ASAT) test could showcase an ability to reach medium-Earth orbit. Doing so, some analysts say, would underscore that country’s ability to place the constellation of U.S. Global Positioning System navigational at risk.....snip~
    Any use of anti-satellite weapons to attack US communications areas would result in a nuclear strike. This is not a plausible threat.

    Edit: Like all projected Chinese wunderweapons I'll believe it when I see it.
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    Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    That's the point I'm making. That they have nuclear weapons trained on the U.S. is not news to anyone, but the matter-of-fact way they report it to their citizenry is creepy.

    Meanwhile, we have Anderson Cooper doing stories on bullying in third grade.
    You're making way too big of a deal about this, fact is that nuclear powers have had weapons capable of reaching the US and have had plans to use such weapons over over half a century now.

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    Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You're making way too big of a deal about this, fact is that nuclear powers have had weapons capable of reaching the US and have had plans to use such weapons over over half a century now.
    Which wasn't my point at all. Of course, I know this.

    It's the nonchalent way they report this as "this is what we have to do to kill most Americans possible" that is disconcerting. The Germans got behind Hitler pretty lockstep, too.

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