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    Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    If the government waste and incompetence is this bad with Medicare, what do you think it's going to be like when Obamacare fully kicks in?



    Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds
    By Stephen DinanThe Washington Times
    Thursday, October 31, 2013

    Medicare paid $23 million for dead patients in 2011 and $29 million for drug benefits for illegal immigrants from 2009 to 2011, according to a report Thursday from the Health and Human Services inspector general.

    The investigators said Medicare has safeguards to try to stop payments to dead patients, but it still ended up sending out the $23 million anyway.

    The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) — the same agency that is struggling to fix the broken Obamacare website — acknowledged the problems and said it will try to take steps to fix them.

    “We agree that in cases where the information indicates an individual is not lawfully present in the United States, that individual should not be permitted to enroll or to remain enrolled in a Part D plan during the period where he or she is not eligible to receive federal benefits,” Marilyn Tavenner, administrator of CMS, said in response to the report about illegal immigrants getting benefits.
    Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds - Washington Times

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    If the government waste and incompetence is this bad with Medicare, what do you think it's going to be like when Obamacare fully kicks in?
    Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds - Washington Times
    Any idea who said this??
    "So today, I am announcing an additional $313 billion in savings that will rein in unnecessary spending, and increase efficiency and the quality of care—savings that will ensure that we have nearly $950 billion set aside to offset the cost of health care reform over the next ten years,"

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Have to wonder how the dead spent all that money.

    Bling to go with their wings maybe.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Any idea who said this??
    Obviously it didn't happen. Are you surprised.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    I am a ;itt;e confused based on the rticle that was linked in the OP how they paid dead patients anything. With part D maybe if they were on automatic mail order refills or something or relatives called in their refills after they croaked, but otherwise.....

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    If the government waste and incompetence is this bad with Medicare, what do you think it's going to be like when Obamacare fully kicks in?
    Any large scale system will be imperfect and while that's no reason not to try to improve, some people will always fall through the net. I don't think it's anything special about it being government run though. Private healthcare isn't immune to fraud and errors, the key differences being they'll tend to favour not paying when they should rather than the other way around and there often being less scope for independent monitoring and regulation of their errors.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Any large scale system will be imperfect and while that's no reason not to try to improve, some people will always fall through the net. I don't think it's anything special about it being government run though. Private healthcare isn't immune to fraud and errors, the key differences being they'll tend to favour not paying when they should rather than the other way around and there often being less scope for independent monitoring and regulation of their errors.
    Private companies which commit fraud can be arrested, fined, and sent to jail. The State, as we see here, will do nothing to those who break the law or the trust of the American people. Instead the guilty will take an early retirement, and a quite significant pension along with it. The ongoing deceits, meanwhile, continue as intended.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    They probably vote for olooser human too (but then without voter ID how would we ever know).

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Obviously it didn't happen. Are you surprised.
    Not terribly. I know he has lied since his first few speeches and you probably did as well. But the lies are not important to the left if, in the end result, they get the big government they want, especially from a candidate who fits their idea of the New America. An interesting and insightful paragraph from Mark Steyn nails it.

    For decades, western elites have been bored by their own traditions and festishized the exotic. Obama was both the beneficiary of this syndrome and its apotheosis. He was living his own COEXIST sticker: his parents were Kansan and Kenyan, as if paired by an alphabetically minded dating agency; he was Hawaiian and Indonesian; for white liberals he offered absolution from racial guilt, but he wasn't one of those in-your-face types like the Reverend Al and the Reverend Jesse yelling grievance jingles all day long; he was a community organizer from the mean streets of Chicago, yet he was also by some happy if vague process an alumnus of half the schools in the Ivy League, and he had the great good fortune not to live in any of the "communities" he "organized" but instead in the more salubrious Hyde Park, a community organized by John D. Rockefeller's money; he embodied "change," but he peddled the same reassuringly shopworn bromides ("America, this is our moment") whose woozy evasions liberals chose to regard as the second coming of Cicero; he was kinda Christian (albeit of the paranoid, neo-segregationist, Afro-nationalistic branch) but sorta Muslim (from a Jakarta madrassah, but don't worry, not one of the heavy-duty kind); he had a white grandmother but also an undocumented auntie served with an unenforced deportation order. If that's not the all-American resumé for the twenty-first century, what is?

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Which indicates another problem with the US's defunct health care system, and another reason why Obama fixed it at least partially.

    Fixing it is something that even the most rabid and frothing at the mouth on the right were fully aware of back in the days before they had Obama to hate.

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