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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    It's especially annoying that I get a penalty on my taxes for not having healthcare even if I don't use any healthcare services, simply because they want my money to pay for OTHER people's healthcare issues.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Of course we could. The problem is Lefties have their favored government entities they like to prop up, and Righties have their favored government entities they like to prop up. Every once in a while one side gains power and cuts authority of the things they don't like, then they greatly increase the power of the things they like: an overall increase in government power.
    I'd like some example of that because needless spending on programs established decades ago seem to continue just because the unionized bureaucracies involved will do everything can to protect their bureaucracies. That's their first rule.

    Government power and control, especially on the fedeal level, continues to grow and an entirely new country is emerging because of these shifts in power. We'll be seeing the consequences of that before too long.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So you are saying that it was deliberate by the government and not someone committing fraud?
    Where did Isay that? Comprehensive reading is so very important.

    Got any evidence of that?
    Of what? Something I didn't say?

    Does that mean that if I cheat on my taxes then it is the governments fault too?
    Where did that come from?

    That if I steal from the bank, that it is the banks fault for not stopping me?
    Thou shalt not steal, Pete!!

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'd like some example of that because needless spending on programs established decades ago seem to continue just because the unionized bureaucracies involved will do everything can to protect their bureaucracies. That's their first rule.

    Government power and control, especially on the fedeal level, continues to grow and an entirely new country is emerging because of these shifts in power. We'll be seeing the consequences of that before too long.
    Farm bill and it's subsidies got expanded. Had nothing to do with federal bureaucracies and everything to do with lobbyist buying power+congresscritters protecting their pork projects.

    Another example: Mitch McConnell increased the budget for a Dam project in Kentucky by 2 billion dollars in order to allow for a vote on the budget. Again, had nothing to do with "federal union bureaucrats" and everything to do with a member of congress getting pork.

    Are you so blinded by your hatred that you'll scapegoat anyone as long as it's convenient? Jeez man you're one sad individual.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Farm bill and it's subsidies got expanded. Had nothing to do with federal bureaucracies and everything to do with lobbyist buying power+congresscritters protecting their pork projects.
    Lobbyists can't expand or continue these policies on their own. There has to be government involvement. The lobbyist groups surrounding Obamacare will probably be the largest ever.

    Another example: Mitch McConnell increased the budget for a Dam project in Kentucky by 2 billion dollars in order to allow for a vote on the budget. Again, had nothing to do with "federal union bureaucrats" and everything to do with a member of congress getting pork.
    Actually both sides said that money was necessary for the work to continue.
    Are you so blinded by your hatred that you'll scapegoat anyone as long as it's convenient? Jeez man you're one sad individual.
    As a matter of fact I'm quite a cheerful sort, largely because I'm rich, good looking, and have many friends. But my obvious good fortune has nothing to do with this thread. Why not stick to the topic, despite your difficulties?

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Lobbyists can't expand or continue these policies on their own. There has to be government involvement. The lobbyist groups surrounding Obamacare will probably be the largest ever.



    Actually both sides said that money was necessary for the work to continue.
    As a matter of fact I'm quite a cheerful sort, largely because I'm rich, good looking, and have many friends. But my obvious good fortune has nothing to do with this thread. Why not stick to the topic, despite your difficulties?
    You completely missed everything I said.


    ...unionized bureaucracies involved...
    The Farm Bill expansion had nothing to do with unions and everything to do with Congress supporting unnecessary pork because local representatives liked the pork. You asked for an example and you have it. That your comprehension is so limited that it doesn't stick really isn't my problem.

    Actually both sides said that money was necessary for the work to continue.
    So it had nothing to do with "unionized bureaucracies"? How naive are you? It just so happens that the one of the things Mitch McConnell and the Dems agree on is that Kentucky needs more pork. And just in time to end the government shutdown. Yep, it's just a coincidence. It's a good thing Mitch McConnell, the Republican in the house that had sole authority to bring such bills to the floor just happens to be from Kentucky. I wonder if that funding would have gone through if McConnell was from Indiana or Minnesota...

    But whatev. As long as there are blind sheep like you, government will always be able to expand it's power.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Obamacare increased the fraud protection measures in medicare.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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