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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    the bad thing about government and it has been this way for eons or as long as I can remember. If there is a problem, the government just throws money at it. If that doesn't cure the problem, the government throws more money at it.
    And, as we can see, party supporters accept lying if it's there side who is doing it. No democracy can continue this way and last over the long term.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So it is private sector crooks and you blame "the government"? Another pathetic hatchet job of a thread against the ACA with baseless accusations and twisted so called facts..
    It was the government giving crooks taxpayers dollars. Do you genuinely believe all governments are honest, or just the US Government and its employees?

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Income redistribution schemes are much easier at the federal level since the Feds can print and borrow endlessly while state and local govt's must actually tax in order to spend.
    Yes, local politicians must actually face the people whose money they spend. But for people of limited intelligence having people in a distant city making decisions for them is easier than having to think.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    You're right. It's crooked licensed businesses, the only people who can write a pain med scrip and often refuse to while they are billing for someone who isn't there. Why do I mention the scrip? Because these are (mostly) people TRUSTED to manage narcotics yet we find they can't be trusted to charge for things they actually do. Seems a bit ****ed up to me.

    I just didn't support the implication that crooked dead people were getting this money as a part of the "great parasite nation" of "low information voters" that get blamed for every goddamn thing. I used your post to enter the discussion because you are pretty rational and I'm here to participate, not to sling insults and I could expect a reasonable, useful response from you.
    I don't believe I insulted you, or at least that wasn't my intention.

    What I am saying is that it is just not the doctors who are dishonest. Other staff and government employees are as well.

    We can see bureaucracies having parties on the public dime, charging expenses for things that should never have been included, using billions of dollars in crony capitalism, bribing sectors of the economy with taxpayer dollars, government bureaucracies with immense power working for a political party, 'stimulus' packages where trillions of dollars disappear and no one is quite sure where it all went.

    That's not the private sector running up those kind of dollars, it's the government. And who is going to police the government once they get all the power they are seizing? Can we ever ask the government to curb their control over the private citizen once they have it? I don't think so.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's not the private sector running up those kind of dollars, it's the government. And who is going to police the government once they get all the power they are seizing? Can we ever ask the government to curb their control over the private citizen once they have it? I don't think so.
    Of course we could. The problem is Lefties have their favored government entities they like to prop up, and Righties have their favored government entities they like to prop up. Every once in a while one side gains power and cuts authority of the things they don't like, then they greatly increase the power of the things they like: an overall increase in government power.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It was the government giving crooks taxpayers dollars. Do you genuinely believe all governments are honest, or just the US Government and its employees?
    So you are saying that it was deliberate by the government and not someone committing fraud? Got any evidence of that? Does that mean that if I cheat on my taxes then it is the governments fault too? That if I steal from the bank, that it is the banks fault for not stopping me?
    PeteEU

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    If the government waste and incompetence is this bad with Medicare, what do you think it's going to be like when Obamacare fully kicks in?





    Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds - Washington Times
    I'm so excited.
    Cannot wait for "lactation and maternity services, abortion services, speech therapy, mammograms, and fertility treatments". It's all inclusive... like Club Med! All you can eat and drink and then some! Brought to you by our caring and competent Socialist government.

    VIVA!

    I'll pass the speech therapy on to Obama, for he seems to struggle badly when he isn't cabled up to his telepromteur.
    The abortion service... I guess that's ObamaKare itself.
    Mammograms... hmmm... I must have missed that day of sex-ed.
    Maternity services... no rodent warfare for this dude. Y'all can have rodents, and please... take care of them yourself. It doesn't take a village to raise a family. I ain't your village. Unless of course, I get on the Felonious Bill Clinton Plan, and can slip wifey the pork sword when you're off working for the government. But still... you take care of the rodents.
    Fertility treatments? ROTFLOL... never mind...

    I can't wait until they get Das Super-Sized Socialist System lubed up and ready to perform.

    Of course, all this is much cheaper too!!!!

    Hey, how do I sign up on healthcare.gov?
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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And, as we can see, party supporters accept lying if it's there side who is doing it. No democracy can continue this way and last over the long term.
    Very true, when one comes to expect a used care salesman to be more truthful than any politician, President, Representatives, Senators and on down, this country has a big problem. People have become use to their candidates lying and telling you what they want to hear. I think it was Sam Donaldson who stated when in a discussion over promises made during a political campaign, he said, "No one expects any candidate to keep their campaign promises. To hold a candidate responsible for those promises made on the campaign trail is asinine." Perhaps not his exact words, but close enough. This is our political system today, lies, half-truths, out of context words, just tell the voters anything at all just to get their votes. After all, it was just campaign promises and the truth means nothing on the trail.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    If the government waste and incompetence is this bad with Medicare, what do you think it's going to be like when Obamacare fully kicks in?





    Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds - Washington Times
    I don't even want to think about. Seems that everything the government touches turns into a HUGE money pit.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IOW, it's crooks in the private sector.

    The same private sector the right worships and wants to leave our health care in the hands of.
    That would be the same private sector Obama and the Dems passed a law requiring everyone to be a part of.
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