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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Leave it to the right wing to make a mountain out of an ant hill. They don't like Medicare so they are going to shine a light on it.
    Actually, I don't think Medicare paid any dead people. What they paid was fraudulent bills by Doctors who billed for services that obviously weren't provided. This is called fraud and I'm sure there is plenty of it. Hopefully, the frauders will be arrested.

    Medicare doesn't send any money to individuals. I wish they would send me some but they just don't.

    Hope this clarifies things a bit. Crooked Doctors - who would have thought?

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Actually, I don't think Medicare paid any dead people. What they paid was fraudulent bills by Doctors who billed for services that obviously weren't provided. This is called fraud and I'm sure there is plenty of it. Hopefully, the frauders will be arrested.

    Medicare doesn't send any money to individuals. I wish they would send me some but they just don't.

    Hope this clarifies things a bit. Crooked Doctors - who would have thought?
    Except it's not just crooked doctors..

    According to Steven Malanga of the Manhattan Institute, experts estimate that "abuses of Medicaid (alone) eat up at least 10 percent of the program’s total cost nationwide -- a waste of $30 billion a year. Unscrupulous doctors billing for over 24 hours per day of procedures, phony companies invoicing for phantom services, pharmacists filling prescriptions for dead patients, home health-care companies demanding payment for treating clients actually in the hospital -- on and on the rip-offs go."
    $Billions in Medicare/Medicaid lost to fraud, abuse - National Law Enforcement | Examiner.com

    Corruption in the US: Medicare fraud | Global Health Policy at NYU-Wagner

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    IOW, it's crooks in the private sector.

    The same private sector the right worships and wants to leave our health care in the hands of.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IOW, it's crooks in the private sector.

    The same private sector the right worships and wants to leave our health care in the hands of.
    Both 'sectors' can be riddled with dishonest people, as we have seen in this Obama administration. When there are easy opportunities to make money for little risk people will often take that chance. Does this surprise you?

    Do all those food stamp recipients really use them for food to feed their children. Are farmers being paid not to grow food essential to the economy?

    As we have seen through various government examples during the past few years there is little accountability in the Obama Administration, so naturally many people will lie and break the law.

    However, in the private sector, there is greater oversight and less opportunity because the private employer looks for efficiency and honesty. The government, less so. Just the million dollar 'conferences' they've had should tell you that much.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Both 'sectors' can be riddled with dishonest people, as we have seen in this Obama administration. When there are easy opportunities to make money for little risk people will often take that chance. Does this surprise you?

    Do all those food stamp recipients really use them for food to feed their children. Are farmers being paid not to grow food essential to the economy?

    As we have seen through various government examples during the past few years there is little accountability in the Obama Administration, so naturally many people will lie and break the law.

    However, in the private sector, there is greater oversight and less opportunity because the private employer looks for efficiency and honesty. The government, less so. Just the million dollar 'conferences' they've had should tell you that much.
    the bad thing about government and it has been this way for eons or as long as I can remember. If there is a problem, the government just throws money at it. If that doesn't cure the problem, the government throws more money at it.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Any large scale system will be imperfect and while that's no reason not to try to improve, some people will always fall through the net. I don't think it's anything special about it being government run though. Private healthcare isn't immune to fraud and errors, the key differences being they'll tend to favour not paying when they should rather than the other way around and there often being less scope for independent monitoring and regulation of their errors.
    I transcribed agent dictation for a disability insurance company. Being that they were run for profit!! they had an entire division set up to root out fraud and discontinue false disability claims. Their agents videotaped beneficiaries of disability payments using their crutches to go to court and to the doctor -- and then videotaped them loading trucks to help family move. Or playing golf. Or skiing. They had hundreds of agents whose only job was to discover fraudulent claims.

    When they'd built up their case, they told the claimant they would sue for recovery of all monies paid if they didn't sign off. Guess what? They did.

    When there's no bottom to the well? Nobody gives a damn. Fraud is rampant.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    the bad thing about government and it has been this way for eons or as long as I can remember. If there is a problem, the government just throws money at it. If that doesn't cure the problem, the government throws more money at it.
    Thereby perpetuating the original problem - merely throwing money at problems.

    The real problem with government is that it is the only institution among mankind that propagates itself by "solving" problems it was responsible for creating in the first place, which "solutions" themselves only generate more problems requiring further "solutions."
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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Both 'sectors' can be riddled with dishonest people, as we have seen in this Obama administration. When there are easy opportunities to make money for little risk people will often take that chance. Does this surprise you?

    Do all those food stamp recipients really use them for food to feed their children. Are farmers being paid not to grow food essential to the economy?

    As we have seen through various government examples during the past few years there is little accountability in the Obama Administration, so naturally many people will lie and break the law.

    However, in the private sector, there is greater oversight and less opportunity because the private employer looks for efficiency and honesty. The government, less so. Just the million dollar 'conferences' they've had should tell you that much.
    No, the private sector does not have any oversight that ensures that our tax dollars are being well spent. It only sees to it that they make as much profit as possible without any concern for the well being of citizens.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    So it is private sector crooks and you blame "the government"? Another pathetic hatchet job of a thread against the ACA with baseless accusations and twisted so called facts..
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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    And that makes it ok then?
    There are times CON false piety wears a bit thin....

    NO system made of men by men will EVER be 100% without sin. That the Medicare system has fraud and loss WAAAAY below the private sector should be cause for celebration... instead a few Partisan CONs try and rig the report to imply Medicare is wasteful... it is NOT!

    32 million, give or take out of about half a TRILLION dollars.... no private sector business can hold it's fraud to that small fraction of a percent. Hell I doubt many households can accurately gauge where their income goes to that fraction of a percent.

    Is it 'ok'???? HELL YES!!!!! It is beyond Ok, it is amazing, spectacular, above and beyond anything the private sector can get close to!!!!

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