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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    If the government waste and incompetence is this bad with Medicare, what do you think it's going to be like when Obamacare fully kicks in?
    Or universal?



    Here's the deal: PPACA is a terrible law by virtually ANY preexisting political standard, conservative or liberal. When Obama apologists finally admit defeat on that point, they retreat to the position of "well I wanted single payer all along so…"

    And stories like this point to the drawbacks of single payer. Government taking over the industry doesn't magically solve the problem. It still has to manage all this ****. And Medicare is the closest example to what that would look like. Medicare is the biggest and most problematic government entitlement program we have, by far. It covers way too much, at too high of prices, as a matter of routine. And then there are these cases of outright incompetence on top of it.

    We cannot have a universal health care system that "covers way too much" the way Medicare currently does.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    If the government waste and incompetence is this bad with Medicare, what do you think it's going to be like when Obamacare fully kicks in?





    Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds - Washington Times
    Reading the story from the Moony Times, since they provide no links to the government, I have to assume they pulled this crap out of their asses.


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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Reading the story from the Moony Times, since they provide no links to the government, I have to assume they pulled this crap out of their asses.
    I expected nothing less from you Pete. You always dismiss the things that don't fit with your political beliefs.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I expected nothing less from you Pete. You always dismiss the things that don't fit with your political beliefs.
    Give me some links to the government and I ready to believe it. Okay?


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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Give me some links to the government and I ready to believe it. Okay?
    No you won't... Believe what you want Pete.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    No you won't... Believe what you want Pete.
    Yes I would, just provide the links.


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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Yes I would, just provide the links.
    FFS Pete, I didn't write the story.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    FFS Pete, I didn't write the story.
    I realize you didn't write the story, but I am not ready to believe it until there is link to the Medicare website. The story may in fact be true, but I see no evidence of that. The Washington Times is notorious for RW propaganda stories.


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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Private companies which commit fraud can be arrested, fined, and sent to jail. The State, as we see here, will do nothing to those who break the law or the trust of the American people. Instead the guilty will take an early retirement, and a quite significant pension along with it. The ongoing deceits, meanwhile, continue as intended.
    Slow down there. I was talking about private companies or government as victims of fraud, not instigators. They're obviously responsible for implementing systems to minimise fraud and errors but as I said, nobody can eliminate the risks entirely. Again, I don't see anything in the OP article that indicates the scale and scope of problems suffered by the Medicare system are significantly different to what you'd expect from any similarly large scale and complex system.

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    Re: Medicare paid millions to dead patients, illegal immigrants, probe finds

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I realize you didn't write the story, but I am not ready to believe it until there is link to the Medicare website. The story may in fact be true, but I see no evidence of that. The Washington Times is notorious for RW propaganda stories.
    Here you go Pete...google IS your friend...?

    https://oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-04-12-00130.asp
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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