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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Note the phrase that this casualty chart was posted in response to.

    "No one died under Nixon". Do you need me to define "no' and 'one' for you ?
    How many ambassadors did Nixon cover up killing? Because that would be

    Nixon = 0

    Obama = 1
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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Just a question....With all of your "CON" this, and "CON" that....What do you think as a "progressive" is going too far for government? Do you believe in the founding premise that we have a "limited federal government"? And finally what is government's role in your life?
    Let's see, a CON dodge from answering the topic at hand and trying to deflect from the crap that didn't fly...imagine that...

    The idea of a limited federal government was put forth by the soon to be extinct Federalists. Most of the writings cited were never ratified by the States, just drug out by a few from time to time to be bleated from a soapbox.

    fact is 'limited federal government' failed on many levels from law enforcement to banking, from national defense to monopolies. What made sense for an agrarian tiny nation clinging to a seacoast makes little sense for the last surviving superpower transitioning from manufacture to service economy.

    It is amazing to me that CONs embrace progress in soooo many facets of their life but cling to government concepts of a patriarchal, agrarian, pre-industrial 18th century society...

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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Likewise.

    YOU SAID: 'Nixon didnt kill anyone"
    I SHOWED: Vietnam casualties during Nixons term
    YOU SAID - LBJ did it!
    Nixon inherited Vietnam and every year he was Prez the death total went down. Not even a nice try. Now lets get back on topic of the thread.
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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Nixon inherited Vietnam and every year he was Prez the death total went down. Not even a nice try. Now lets get back on topic of the thread.
    unless you count the casualties in Cambodia and Laos.

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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    unless you count the casualties in Cambodia and Laos.
    Not even Nixon could have done what Pol Pot did in Cambodia, killing 2-3 million of his own people in what was a country of 7 million and all of this after peace broke out, between April of 1975 and 1978 when the Vietnamese came to the Cambodian's people rescue and stopped the killing fields. Laos, not may died there, that was a country of three million people, most of the fighting was up on the PDJ and involved the Hmong tribe lead by Vang Pao against the NVA. But still after the Pathet Lao took over in 1975 it is estimated another 500,000 Lao died at their, the communist hands and the PL tried to exterminate the Hmong tribe.

    I am not sure of the estimate on Vietnam or South Vietnam's people, but according to DOD you can chalk up another 2 million there as a result of re-education camps and the fleeing of the boat people. You add them all up and you will get between 5-6 million deaths after peace broke out in southeast asia. Yet one never hears about that.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Not even Nixon could have done what Pol Pot did in Cambodia, killing 2-3 million of his own people in what was a country of 7 million and all of this after peace broke out, between April of 1975 and 1978 when the Vietnamese came to the Cambodian's people rescue and stopped the killing fields. Laos, not may died there, that was a country of three million people, most of the fighting was up on the PDJ and involved the Hmong tribe lead by Vang Pao against the NVA. But still after the Pathet Lao took over in 1975 it is estimated another 500,000 Lao died at their, the communist hands and the PL tried to exterminate the Hmong tribe.

    I am not sure of the estimate on Vietnam or South Vietnam's people, but according to DOD you can chalk up another 2 million there as a result of re-education camps and the fleeing of the boat people. You add them all up and you will get between 5-6 million deaths after peace broke out in southeast asia. Yet one never hears about that.
    maybe because the topic of the veitnam war is too emotionally charged for some people to actually discuss the consequences of leaving. i think most people just wanted to get out of there.

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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    maybe because the topic of the veitnam war is too emotionally charged for some people to actually discuss the consequences of leaving. i think most people just wanted to get out of there.
    I was in Vietnam and none of the GIs I know wanted to turn tail and run...They wanted to win.
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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I was in Vietnam and none of the GIs I know wanted to turn tail and run...They wanted to win.
    at what cost?

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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    maybe because the topic of the veitnam war is too emotionally charged for some people to actually discuss the consequences of leaving. i think most people just wanted to get out of there.
    I know, then after the fall of Phnom Penh, Saigon and later Laos, basically the whole nation wanted to forget it ever happened. No one looked at the aftermath and the death yet to come after April of 1975 supposedly when peace reigned.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    at what cost?
    At what cost? Is that intended to be profound?

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