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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Republicans did not vote for this mess. It's your game. You folks own it. The government, as it always does, prolonged the 1929 crash. Government caused the 2008 failings by forcing banks to make loans to people who could not pay them back. Go to youtube and find the vid of Cuomo stating loans will go under; he just didn't think so many that it would knock three legs from the stool. Why don't we pay for what WE want instead of some shell game that Obama and the Demokrats think we should play. What's that old chestnut? Keep your Rosaries out of my ovaries... well... why is government now the decider? Are we too stupid that we need a distant, slow and corrupt government to run our lives for us? Perhaps you do! Free markets always drive costs down... and government is known for... rising costs, crappier service, slower service... the Great Government Trifecta. You done be Trifecta's from behind and you don't even know it. Enjoy! How's your signup going? Were you one of the LUCKY 6?
    More CONvoluted history. The CON game is the distorted and ignored facts to try and make up a new history.

    Ignore the fact that government lack of regulation CAUSED both the 1929 and 2008 Crash. Someone less right wing partisan would argue the GOP in both instances fought hard to block and gut any attempt to help in the recovery. (the GOP was for TARP under BushII then firmly against it under Obama )

    The Government didn't force banks to make marginal loans... The banks were running out of prime loans so they begged for changes to 'help' those they traditionally discriminated against. The CONs make great hay out of Fannie and Freddie losing so much money but overlook much of the loss was misrepresented loans from the semi sacred private sector, the laundry list of banking scandals to include BOA's latest and now record penalties show this.

    But ignore facts to try and twist history as part of the CON game!

    You ignore every good example of how government regulation has stabilized our economy with no real proof it is the government increases prices (hasn't in the food sector) slower service (hasn't in the auto industry) Crappier service... hell the private sector has that one sown up- if you get out of the house much and deal with it much.

    My wife and I are self insured and been that way for at least a decade now. We have seen the crappy ugly side of healthcare. We gave up pretending being under insured was a responsible thing to do. We both served in the Army so 'every man for himself' isn't our credo. We both know if we really needed a crappy insurance plan it would not pay enough to keep us out of bankruptcy.

    As far as I know our insurance meets the ACA requirements so we can keep our insurance. If it doesn't we won't scream "our insurance was dropped!" No Sir we wil buy the plan that best fits us and is ACA compliant.

    Don't know if you are married or single but for couples of one each of the sexes, having preventative and treatment coverages for both penises and vaginas is a very good thang....

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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    More CONvoluted history. The CON game is the distorted and ignored facts to try and make up a new history.

    Ignore the fact that government lack of regulation CAUSED both the 1929 and 2008 Crash. Someone less right wing partisan would argue the GOP in both instances fought hard to block and gut any attempt to help in the recovery. (the GOP was for TARP under BushII then firmly against it under Obama )

    The Government didn't force banks to make marginal loans... The banks were running out of prime loans so they begged for changes to 'help' those they traditionally discriminated against. The CONs make great hay out of Fannie and Freddie losing so much money but overlook much of the loss was misrepresented loans from the semi sacred private sector, the laundry list of banking scandals to include BOA's latest and now record penalties show this.

    But ignore facts to try and twist history as part of the CON game!

    You ignore every good example of how government regulation has stabilized our economy with no real proof it is the government increases prices (hasn't in the food sector) slower service (hasn't in the auto industry) Crappier service... hell the private sector has that one sown up- if you get out of the house much and deal with it much.

    My wife and I are self insured and been that way for at least a decade now. We have seen the crappy ugly side of healthcare. We gave up pretending being under insured was a responsible thing to do. We both served in the Army so 'every man for himself' isn't our credo. We both know if we really needed a crappy insurance plan it would not pay enough to keep us out of bankruptcy.

    As far as I know our insurance meets the ACA requirements so we can keep our insurance. If it doesn't we won't scream "our insurance was dropped!" No Sir we wil buy the plan that best fits us and is ACA compliant.

    Don't know if you are married or single but for couples of one each of the sexes, having preventative and treatment coverages for both penises and vaginas is a very good thang....

    Your revisionist history, and ignorant phraseology calling political opponents to your own socialistic view of what you think this country should be is disgusting. Most people have coverage for basic services like what you are talking about here, yet you distort, and paint a false picture of just the opposite. All because you want your BC pills for free, or condoms for free.

    The history of the CRA started by Carter, and ramped up by Clinton is legendary for the pressure it put on banks to make those bad loans, then easing regulation so that banks could mitigate the risk of that. In hearings before the crash, it was republicans that put pressure on regulators, and the regulators themselves that were screaming for more regulation power, and demo's viciously attack the premise of the hearings defending the criminal Franklin Raines as he absconded with over $90 million dollars, and left the industry to crumble.

    It is fact that you yourself refuse to acknowledge, unless you twist them first, and then say that others are not conforming to your fairy tales, so are wrong...It is a foolish game, and I do hope that progressives like you continue to lie though, because as the curtain is pulled back on progressive corruption, and lies, it will ensure that progressivism is dead in this country. I only hope that you don't destroy the country in the process.
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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    How's your signup going? Were you one of the LUCKY 6?
    And how many of them in the States illegally.

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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Your revisionist history, and ignorant phraseology calling political opponents to your own socialistic view of what you think this country should be is disgusting. Most people have coverage for basic services like what you are talking about here, yet you distort, and paint a false picture of just the opposite. All because you want your BC pills for free, or condoms for free. The history of the CRA started by Carter, and ramped up by Clinton is legendary for the pressure it put on banks to make those bad loans, then easing regulation so that banks could mitigate the risk of that. In hearings before the crash, it was republicans that put pressure on regulators, and the regulators themselves that were screaming for more regulation power, and demo's viciously attack the premise of the hearings defending the criminal Franklin Raines as he absconded with over $90 million dollars, and left the industry to crumble. It is fact that you yourself refuse to acknowledge, unless you twist them first, and then say that others are not conforming to your fairy tales, so are wrong...It is a foolish game, and I do hope that progressives like you continue to lie though, because as the curtain is pulled back on progressive corruption, and lies, it will ensure that progressivism is dead in this country. I only hope that you don't destroy the country in the process.
    Well it is difficult to get past the jingolistic, right wing talk radio BS, but the GOP fought hard to deregulate the banking industry, as in the S&L debacle from Reagan's day, 'cutting red tape' and allowing traditional banks to dabble across the board in the market and other more risky was pushed hard by the GOP, remember graham??? he is the guy who claimed there was no crisis, Americans are just whiners- McCain quickly dismissed him from his re-election brain trust.

    What hurt our economy was the drive to create as much paper as possible to bundle up for the Derivative market, much of which was worthless but the PRIVATE SECTOR bond rating companies gave the turd pile a AAA rating. It was an ever increasing greed for more and more paper to push on secondary markets that was the crisis. It was the CON game call for government to 'cut the red tape' that gutted oversight.

    CON revisionism has the President 'forcing' banks to make loans but quite the opposite is true. Banks couldn't make them fast enough as they quickly sold the crappy ones off and collected the 'service' fee.

    One of the biggest CON lies of late is how dems 'forced' the poor weak willed private sector to do so much the risk averse bankers quailed at having to do...

    (that wasn't the way the banking industry pedaled that hot mess BEFORE the collapse.)

    Now I can understand the 'me first' CON crowd wanting to refuse to see the real cost of health care as it stands now, but we pay a HUGE surcharge for the uninsured/underinsured folks. Whining about BC pills seems so petty.

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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Well it is difficult to get past the jingolistic, right wing talk radio BS, but the GOP fought hard to deregulate the banking industry, as in the S&L debacle from Reagan's day, 'cutting red tape' and allowing traditional banks to dabble across the board in the market and other more risky was pushed hard by the GOP, remember graham??? he is the guy who claimed there was no crisis, Americans are just whiners- McCain quickly dismissed him from his re-election brain trust.

    What hurt our economy was the drive to create as much paper as possible to bundle up for the Derivative market, much of which was worthless but the PRIVATE SECTOR bond rating companies gave the turd pile a AAA rating. It was an ever increasing greed for more and more paper to push on secondary markets that was the crisis. It was the CON game call for government to 'cut the red tape' that gutted oversight.

    CON revisionism has the President 'forcing' banks to make loans but quite the opposite is true. Banks couldn't make them fast enough as they quickly sold the crappy ones off and collected the 'service' fee.

    One of the biggest CON lies of late is how dems 'forced' the poor weak willed private sector to do so much the risk averse bankers quailed at having to do...

    (that wasn't the way the banking industry pedaled that hot mess BEFORE the collapse.)

    Now I can understand the 'me first' CON crowd wanting to refuse to see the real cost of health care as it stands now, but we pay a HUGE surcharge for the uninsured/underinsured folks. Whining about BC pills seems so petty.
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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Six. That's hilarious.

    What's even more hilarious are the responses of a certain forum member in this thread who will, of course, remain nameless.

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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do you do bed time fairy tales too?
    No Sir, and I don't regurgitate CON talking points and revisions of the real history.

    fact is the free market maniacs drove the bus right over a cliff in '29 and '08. The financial sector begged and begged for more latitude saying who knows better than they what will work and what CEO would trash his own company for profit...

    The answer to the latter was quite a few as they had golden parachutes and the companies were 'contractually obligated' to pay huge bonuses to the very men who had a foot on the gas, ignored the brake and drove like crap!

    The answer to the first part is many didn't have a clue what they were 'managing', just profits were at an all time high, best to not question the up n comers too closely in how they were doing it....

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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    No Sir, and I don't regurgitate CON talking points and revisions of the real history.

    fact is the free market maniacs drove the bus right over a cliff in '29 and '08. The financial sector begged and begged for more latitude saying who knows better than they what will work and what CEO would trash his own company for profit...

    The answer to the latter was quite a few as they had golden parachutes and the companies were 'contractually obligated' to pay huge bonuses to the very men who had a foot on the gas, ignored the brake and drove like crap!

    The answer to the first part is many didn't have a clue what they were 'managing', just profits were at an all time high, best to not question the up n comers too closely in how they were doing it....
    Just a question....With all of your "CON" this, and "CON" that....What do you think as a "progressive" is going too far for government? Do you believe in the founding premise that we have a "limited federal government"? And finally what is government's role in your life?
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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89]

    I truly believe that the lies and deception Obama has done he should be impeached. He is hurting millions of people with his lies. The man is not qualified to be POTUS.

    The only problem is if that happened we would have to deal with the imbecile Biden as the POTUS so impeach his butt and bring in the Speaker of the House.
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    Re: Report: Obamacare got six enrollees on Day 1 [W:89:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I wonder... did any DP Leftist claim to have enrolled on Day 1?

    My bet is 10 or more had... ROTFLOL...
    I haven't heard anyone say they did.
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