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    Re: Insurance for the young could be less than $50 a month

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You shouldn't be using insurance for check ups and preventative services at all in the first place. You should be paying cash out of pocket for that.
    Insurance companies found that by providing check ups and preventative services at a reduced price or for free, they encourage the people on the policy to use those services. Those services promote better health which costs less for the insurance companies then the not having those benefits. Without those benefits in the plan, people wait until it is too late and the care is more expensive then the preventative measures that would have provided early detection or avoidance of the disease all together.
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    Re: Insurance for the young could be less than $50 a month

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    "Obama says his plan will "lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year," partly through the use of electronic records. But experts say large savings from health IT are unlikely to flow to consumers."

    Obama’s Inflated Health “Savings”



    He only repeated it over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.....

    But you don't recall....yeah right.


    It's hard not to ignore trolls or close-minded ignoramuses who are incapable of changing their minds.

    You basically spelled it out with simple logic.

    Obama made the following claims: You can keep your health insurance if you like it and healthcare costs will go down. Remember his whole "What would you do with an extra $2500" Twitter campaign?

    Now that has been determined to be a mathematical lie, the counterarguments are "You're not typical" (i.e. manipulating language to make it look Obama didn't lie even when there is video proof) and "factual" opinions.

    According to them, when you buy insurance and insurance helps pay for your care, you are being "subsidized" by the insurance company so a higher deductible means you are paying more of YOUR share of your healthcare costs. It's as if they don't know the definition of insurance--you pay in so that when a catastrophe happens, they pay you an amount that offsets it. It is by no means "free". The amount of delusion is untenable, and the unfortunate reality is that more "education" will probably make them more annoying and even less analytical and logical.

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    Re: Insurance for the young could be less than $50 a month

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Lets get this website up and running to make it a lot easier to apply for these plans. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Right. And they need 2.7 million out of those 2.9 million to sign up. So they have 1.9 million of those covered, but how about the other 800,000 people? How are you going to convince them to sign up for bare bones healthcare that they probably will never need and expect them to pay $200-500 a month?

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    Re: Insurance for the young could be less than $50 a month

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Right!

    The concept is that the health insurance that had been sold to many people was terrible. Mini med plans, plans with carved out coverages, very low caps, etc.

    Now there are ACA standards, people will be migrated to better, and often cheaper, insurance plans, and we should see MUCH LESS financial ruin from bad insurance.

    You don't go bankrupt because you have to pay your dedectible. You go bankrupt because you get care you're not covered for.
    LOL. People were not going bankrupt because they had to pay for their own birth control pills or other such nonsense that has increase the cost of health insurance and raised the deductible that people will be held responsible for. Whats on the market now because of Obanadont'care is junk insurance for millions of people. It's in fact terrible because it will force millions off the roles of the insured and drive the cost through the roof for the rest.

    So as it is now, people will go bankrupt because they lost their health insurance due to Obamadon'tcare or go bankrupt because they can't pay the massive deductible due to Obamadon'tcare. Lose, lose for Americans.
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    Re: Insurance for the young could be less than $50 a month

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Right. And they need 2.7 million out of those 2.9 million to sign up. So they have 1.9 million of those covered, but how about the other 800,000 people? How are you going to convince them to sign up for bare bones healthcare that they probably will never need and expect them to pay $200-500 a month?

    I know! How about advertising and publicizing the plans!

    Oh wait. The House GOP killed that.

    Hey - How about having the entire HHS organization work together on making this rollout successful?

    Oh wait. The GOP has been filibustering nominations for top posts for years, and between fighting it in court and forcing the HHS department to do much more work than was initially planned (note that ideally they wanted 50 state exchanges), its been unecessarily difficult.

    Hey! Lets get organizations like the NFL to directly publicize the ACA to their fan base!

    Oh, wait. The GOP threatened the NFL to not get involved in 'divisiveness'. And they back down.

    Gee. I wonder why the success of this program seems to be hitting such a rocky road??

    GOP’s Obamacare conspiracy: Sabotage from the inside - Salon.com

    I know! How about getting most of the states to run their own state ACA websites which turn out to be much better run than the federal one!

    Oh wait. The GOP legislatures/governors in 30 states rejected that idea.

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    Re: Insurance for the young could be less than $50 a month

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I know! How about advertising and publicizing the plans!

    Oh wait. The House GOP killed that.

    Hey - How about having the entire HHS organization work together on making this rollout successful?

    Oh wait. The GOP has been filibustering nominations for top posts for years, and between fighting it in court and forcing the HHS department to do much more work than was initially planned (note that ideally they wanted 50 state exchanges), its been unecessarily difficult.

    Hey! Lets get organizations like the NFL to directly publicize the ACA to their fan base!

    Oh, wait. The GOP threatened the NFL to not get involved in 'divisiveness'. And they back down.

    Gee. I wonder why the success of this program seems to be hitting such a rocky road??

    GOP’s Obamacare conspiracy: Sabotage from the inside - Salon.com

    I know! How about getting most of the states to run their own state ACA websites which turn out to be much better run than the federal one!

    Oh wait. The GOP legislatures/governors in 30 states rejected that idea.
    All the advertising in the world won't get nearly a million people to pay $200-500 a month for bare bones health care. Do you really think people are so gullible?

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    Insurance for the young could be less than $50 a month

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    All the advertising in the world won't get nearly a million people to pay $200-500 a month for bare bones health care. Do you really think people are so gullible?
    Yet it's not bare bones health care, and it looks to be substantially less than that price.

    Apparently, you would benefit from the advertising, since you are so clearly misinformed!

    I do love hearing the contradictions:

    Conservative 1) the coverage is terrible and expensive!

    Conservative 2) yes! And it pays for so many things I don't need!
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    Re: Insurance for the young could be less than $50 a month

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I know! How about advertising and publicizing the plans!

    Oh wait. The House GOP killed that.

    Hey - How about having the entire HHS organization work together on making this rollout successful?

    Oh wait. The GOP has been filibustering nominations for top posts for years, and between fighting it in court and forcing the HHS department to do much more work than was initially planned (note that ideally they wanted 50 state exchanges), its been unecessarily difficult.

    Hey! Lets get organizations like the NFL to directly publicize the ACA to their fan base!

    Oh, wait. The GOP threatened the NFL to not get involved in 'divisiveness'. And they back down.

    Gee. I wonder why the success of this program seems to be hitting such a rocky road??

    GOP’s Obamacare conspiracy: Sabotage from the inside - Salon.com

    I know! How about getting most of the states to run their own state ACA websites which turn out to be much better run than the federal one!

    Oh wait. The GOP legislatures/governors in 30 states rejected that idea.
    So the ACA sucks because they couldn't advertise it? That's rich. And how is that individual state exchanges working out? That's right, 85-90% of signups are going to Medicaid. Those states will be thanking their elected officials come 2015 when the bill is due.

    Make sure you put your tin foil hat on tonight or the eevil GOP will invade your brain and convince you your premiums are going up. Just make sure not to check your mailbox.

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    Re: Insurance for the young could be less than $50 a month

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    So the ACA sucks because they couldn't advertise it? That's rich. And how is that individual state exchanges working out? That's right, 85-90% of signups are going to Medicaid. Those states will be thanking their elected officials come 2015 when the bill is due.

    Make sure you put your tin foil hat on tonight or the eevil GOP will invade your brain and convince you your premiums are going up. Just make sure not to check your mailbox.
    My premium went up $3/mo. Since I, like 80% of people, get employer based insurance, I kept the policy that I had.
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    Re: Insurance for the young could be less than $50 a month

    I used my AARP Supplental Medical Ins. today - paid $50 towards my visit.
    I got a physical, refills on my thyroid med, EKG, blood test, and will do stool samples for colon cancer.

    I don't know what the lab cost, for the stool sample will be , but the whole thing costs me around $200.

    I go back in 6 months for the same proceedure (except the EKG ).
    Now tell me why this isn't an effective cheap insurance that matches my needs??
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