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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I don't buy it. Not that you're lying, but that that was their genuine rationale. Doctors have known for well long enough now that the school debts are exorbitant, the hours and pressure extreme, the litigation a potential danger, and finally of course that dealing with hospitals and insurance companies are a pain in the ass. I sincerely doubt that it was Obamacare that did it in for them. And don't tell me "it was the straw that broke the camel's back."
    I don't know what it was that broke the camel's back, but I do know that both are very intelligent and dead set on becoming doctors before Obamacare. Obamacare is the reason that they gave for deciding not to pursue it, and I'm in no position to argue with their reason. :dunno:

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    LMAO... After hours and hours of searching, you come up with one obscure group that says something crazy... Anything to make Conservatives seem as off the rails as liberals are.
    Well, after three seconds of searching, but whatever, you completely missed the point, which is that anybody can make a scare article/post/threat/website/etc. which posits a danger of electing someone or passing a bill. And as history has shown those threats had no grounding. It was hysterical for some Republicans to threaten revolution if Obama was re-elected, hysterical when Democrats said they'd move to Canada, and just as equally hysterical that half of doctors would quit or move if Obamacare is enacted.

    It's baloney.

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I don't know what it was that broke the camel's back, but I do know that both are very intelligent and dead set on becoming doctors before Obamacare. Obamacare is the reason that they gave for deciding not to pursue it, and I'm in no position to argue with their reason. :dunno:
    It doesn't pass the smell test with me.

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once again, the difference in payout. And you're dreaming with the "probably with better insurance" crack.
    Payouts from the same insurance companies have dropped with exchange plans but not other plans?
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    I think they have built 10 new meds schools of late. but yea, the doctors are just quitting...
    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    It doesn't pass the smell test with me.
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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    It doesn't pass the smell test with me.
    It doesn't need to. :dunno:

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There are many reasons an MRI is superior diagnostically speaking to X-Ray.
    Yes, that's true. But a broken arm only requires an X-ray picture which costs a fraction of what the MRI costs. But the doctor makes more money off the MRI. So why would you say that if you had read my post? Anybody can see that I explained it adequately and didn't suggest that an MRI wasn't superior to an X-ray. I stated clearly that an MRI wasn't necessary in (some cases.)

    And again (but not in all cases of course) Did you get it this time?

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The same will likely be true for these new price fixing plans in the ACA.
    ACA doesn't really set prices (which is a flaw in my opinion).

    In any case, the health care exchanges are simply the same insurers who insure now. The only difference is that the exchanges create a pool that allow the insurers to spread the risk and hence charge rates that are similar to employer plans.

    So it would probably be impossible for a doctor to even tell that the patient is in an exchange as opposed to some other plan, and since the payments would be the same, why would they care.

    The OP is arguably the most idiotic article I've seen at DP.

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The older ones who have been practicing for many years will simply retire earlier than normal. Other will work for cash or only take Cadillac plans. Some might just up and move to another country. Doctor are wanted everywhere

    Ever read "Atlas Shrugged"? This is exactly what the people who made the economy go did...they vanished. All because of an over-bearing government that was up in their business.
    That's happening now and has been for a decade. It has nothing to do with ACA.

    Most insurance companies piggyback on Medicare charges so, except for Cadillac Plans, most doctors don't get paid more whether their patients are Medicare patience or in a typical plan. They complain bitterly about this every time Medicare comes out with a tighter pricing schedule, because the insurance companies follow shortly thereafter and negotiate similar prices.

    The medical market of the past 25 years is unsustainable and will be swept away. Indeed, more and more hospitals are forming sister organizations to hire doctors as employees (hospitals are barred from directly hiring doctors), so the number of doctors who will be in private practice is expected to plummet. In the future most doctors will likely be employees, not private practitioners. Indeed, I suspect that this trend is somehow behind the garbled reporting of the OP.

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    This could end up making medical care for everyone a total nightmare thanks to Obamacare. Think about it... What is going to happen if half the doctors in the US suddenly vanish?




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    If they don't take "ObamaCare" then they are a bunch of morons. All the "ObamaCare" policies are through private insurance companies just like they accept now, and ObamaCare does not dictate in any way the payout structure for these private plans.
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