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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    This could end up making medical care for everyone a total nightmare thanks to Obamacare. Think about it... What is going to happen if half the doctors in the US suddenly vanish?




    Docs resisting ObamaCare | New York Post
    Chilling! Remember when Bush was re-elected and all the democrats moved to Canada, and then when Obama was re-elected all the Republicans also moved to Canada? It's deja vu all over again!

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Chilling! Remember when Bush was re-elected and all the democrats moved to Canada, and then when Obama was re-elected all the Republicans also moved to Canada? It's deja vu all over again!
    I remember the democrats threatening that, but not the republicans.

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I remember the democrats threatening that, but not the republicans.
    Fine, secede and make Texas their own country, whatever.

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I understand that..I'm curious what hurdles are put in place. I understand there are a lot of added regulations for insurance companies, I understand doctors are a big fan of the 90 day grace period or how high the deductibles are for the plan (poor people with high deductible means higher chance of not getting compensated).

    As for the medical billing...the ACA creates baseline plans with baseline things covered. As of now hospitals deal with over a thousand insurers with different plans and different requirements. This idea that there's horrible Medicare billing and easy chessy private billing is just false. Most hospitals may hire a Medicare billing expert...but it's because of the high volume of medicare patients they receive.
    No, sorry, you are wrong. Individual doctors have to hire medical coders and billing experts to guide a bill through the tangle of regulations in order to get a bill paid. They will usually carry at least two, and sometimes three people on staff whose whole job is to jump through billing hoops. The third person is usually needed for practices that accept Medicare because that ends up being a full time job. The Other two billing staff become familiar with the ins and out of the major insurance companies like BCBS and Aetna.

    They are an essential part of the practice as a doctor simply doesn't have the time to manage such things on their own.

    Cash-only practices generally charge much less simply because the patient no longer has to share the burden of paying for the billing staff.
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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Are they moving out of the United States? Changing careers? There's no danger of that . . . they'll accept Obamacare or starve.
    The older ones who have been practicing for many years will simply retire earlier than normal. Other will work for cash or only take Cadillac plans. Some might just up and move to another country. Doctor are wanted everywhere

    Ever read "Atlas Shrugged"? This is exactly what the people who made the economy go did...they vanished. All because of an over-bearing government that was up in their business.

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What extra expense? The patients have insurance. What difference does it make to the doctor whether or not that policy was sold on an exchange?
    The insurance on the exchange carries a whole host of max billable regulations that will only pay a doctor a certain rate for a given service without regard to how much it costs the doctor, in the end, to provide that service. Given the added billing personnel costs to support an ACA plan, and low max billable rates it could easily get to the point that a doctor simply can't break even on a given plan. Again, this is why every doctor has a maximum cap on Medicare patients they will see and have their own version of open enrollment for Medicaid patients. They know they will lose money off of these patients, but what they also know is that their losses are deductible. Essentially they take as many Medicare/Medicaid patients as they can and still break even and then close enrollment.

    It's not like they're dealing with a new insurance company with new regulations.
    Yes they are. As I pointed out, these new plans all have their own billing regulations and caps on fees for service.

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I remember the democrats threatening that, but not the republicans.
    Here we go. Remember that bloody uprising by Republicans when Obama was re-elected? That was awful.

    http://www.yourblackbloggers.net/201...ama-reelected/

    The Greene County Republican Committee in Virginia got the nation’s attention with a column calling for an “armed revolution” if President Barack Obama is re-elected in November.

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    I personally know two college graduates in the past year who opted not to go to medical school to pursue a career as a doctor specifically because of Obamacare. That's anecdotal, sure, but that's just in little old The Man's world. I'm sure plenty of others know of and have seen the same thing.

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I personally know two college graduates in the past year who opted not to go to medical school to pursue a career as a doctor specifically because of Obamacare. That's anecdotal, sure, but that's just in little old The Man's world. I'm sure plenty of others know of and have seen the same thing.
    I don't buy it. Not that you're lying, but that that was their genuine rationale. Doctors have known for well long enough now that the school debts are exorbitant, the hours and pressure extreme, the litigation a potential danger, and finally of course that dealing with hospitals and insurance companies are a pain in the ass. I sincerely doubt that it was Obamacare that did it in for them. And don't tell me "it was the straw that broke the camel's back."

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    Re: Docs Resisting ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Here we go. Remember that bloody uprising by Republicans when Obama was re-elected? That was awful.

    http://www.yourblackbloggers.net/201...ama-reelected/
    LMAO... After hours and hours of searching, you come up with one obscure group that says something crazy... Anything to make Conservatives seem as off the rails as liberals are.

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