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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    These laws are designed to prevent discrimination on the basis of a perceived trait. They don't, nor should they, stop an employer from firing or refusing to hire someone on the basis of, for example, an inappropriate conversation from which sexual orientation is either revealed or apparent.
    Nope. If the individual can show they were refused employment because of their sexual orientation they have a valid lawsuit if sexual orientation is added to the list.

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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    As I said many times I am for equal rights for everyone but this is not about that, Its about giving a class of people a special right and hopefully that will never happen. The definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman should never change.
    The definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman of the same race should never change......Oops. I guess definitions can change....if you agree with them. Doh!
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    As I said many times I am for equal rights for everyone but this is not about that, Its about giving a class of people a special right and hopefully that will never happen. The definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman should never change.
    I am afraid you might be right.

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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The problem is you won't accept the facts...You gays can call your hook up anything you want but not marriage. That is a union between a man and a woman period.
    Sorry navy...but it it YOU who won't accept the facts. Gay marriages are not like the whorehouse "hook-ups" that you so often engaged in. They are committed long-term relationships just like yours today, whether you like it or not. It is called "marriage" because it IS marriage...It is legally recognized marriage in an increasing number of states and will soon be legally recognized in every state in this nation.

    Your aversion to gay marriage is no different than the bigots who opposed inter-racial marriage prior to the definition of marriage changing in order to allow those "marriages".
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    read a great op-ed that basically said civil unions = marriage. the difference is civil unions are a touchdown for the gay community, but gay marriage is spiking the ball in the face of their perceived enemies. I agree with that. Lets just take marriage out of the government's hands and let them hand out civil unions to anyone who wishes to apply. Why wouldn't that work and make both sides happy?! Honestly
    Many gays probably would have been happy with civil unions. The reality is that the people who are all of a sudden in favor of civil unions are the same people who opposed them until marriage equality for gays became a reality. Now they cry "Why aren't civil unions enough". Too little too late. It is the fight of the right-wing to prevent civil unions that has helped make gay marriage equality a reality. They are going to have to live with it.
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    read a great op-ed that basically said civil unions = marriage. the difference is civil unions are a touchdown for the gay community, but gay marriage is spiking the ball in the face of their perceived enemies. I agree with that. Lets just take marriage out of the government's hands and let them hand out civil unions to anyone who wishes to apply. Why wouldn't that work and make both sides happy?! Honestly
    1) "Separate but equal" is inherently unequal. Creating a second class, by its very nature, brings with it a stigma. The stigma that those people aren't good enough to use our word. They need to get their own. This country settled that decades ago.
    2) Civil unions aren't even remotely equal. There are literally hundreds of ways that civil unions aren't treated equally.
    3) Truly-equal civil unions are still fought against by the social conservatives. They claim it's a slippery slope to same-sex marriage. Such an "offer" has never been genuine. (as if you should be able to offer or deny someone their rights)
    4) I might buy this "government should stay out of marriage" nonsense if people had brought it up before it became obvious that same-sex marriage was going to happen. Where were you with this opinion a decade ago?
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I might buy this "government should stay out of marriage" nonsense if people had brought it up before it became obvious that same-sex marriage was going to happen. Where were you with this opinion a decade ago?
    ding ding ding ding
    odd this movement seem to grow once equal rights for gays started winning

    not to mention the idea is totally nonsensical and illogical anyway. If one thinks the government should set who can participate im fine with the but the legal contract MUST be protected by law, its that simple.

    also along the same lines where was all the religious out cry for the SOME that do it now when people were getting married under different religions from them, or married with no religion involved and married by judges, magistrates, a singing Elvis etc. All that is sin by their logic too, but oddly they were quiet.
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And if we add sexual orientation to the list that means we can't refuse pedophiles a job because they are pedos. In fact, everyone in the workplace will have to be nice to them to avoid discrimination lawsuits.
    This is the stupidest thing I've read all day. Thanks for that.

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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    As I said many times I am for equal rights for everyone but .
    gay people.

    came in loud and clear.
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The problem is you won't accept the facts...You gays can call your hook up anything you want but not marriage. That is a union between a man and a woman period.
    I disagree.

    I'm a heterosexual and I'd look at a marriage contract which legally unites a man to a man or a woman to a woman the same as I'd look at the legal union between a man and a woman.
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