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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

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    In my state you can fire people without reason.

    Hiring might be a different ball game.
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Maybe the government should stop issuing marriage licenses.

    It is beneficial for the gov to promote marriage is a good thing. It provides a stable relation for a man and a woman and their children and that is a good thing.
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

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    Are you claiming that "heterosexual" isn't a sexual orientation?

    Nope.................
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    1.)The problem is you won't accept the facts...You gays can call your hook up anything you want but not marriage. That is a union between a man and a woman period.
    again FACTS, law, history and dictionaries all prove you wrong.
    But feel free to believe what ever you want even if facts do destroy it
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving


    Back up links:
    Reid pledges vote on bill to protect gay, transgender employment rights - NBC Politics
    For Republicans, a big test on gay rights

    Now for people who actually follow equal rights ENDA isnt NEW and IMO i dont actually think it will pass YET. Still too many fearmongers and conspiracy theorists out there but if it does, WOW, look out.

    The fall of DOMA was a huge nail in the coffin of discrimination and if SCOTUS doesnt act first it will probably lead to about 30 states having equal rights for gays in 3 years.

    If ENDA passes that process will just be further streamlined.
    More writing on the wall, equality IS coming.
    I wonder why the military is exempted. How about congress? Did they exempt themselves like they do with almost every other law they pass?
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I wonder why the military is exempted. How about congress? Did they exempt themselves like they do with almost every other law they pass?
    totally GUESSING but my guess is its old legislation still in there since it was first written in 1994 "I think"
    but with the fall of DADT i would guess its meaningless anyway
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    read a great op-ed that basically said civil unions = marriage. the difference is civil unions are a touchdown for the gay community, but gay marriage is spiking the ball in the face of their perceived enemies. I agree with that. Lets just take marriage out of the government's hands and let them hand out civil unions to anyone who wishes to apply. Why wouldn't that work and make both sides happy?! Honestly

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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It is beneficial for the gov to promote marriage is a good thing. It provides a stable relation for a man and a woman and their children and that is a good thing.
    Here is an article from Wikipedia. I don't know if it's accurate or not.

    Marriage license - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Some groups believe that the requirement to obtain a marriage license is unnecessary and/or immoral. The Libertarian Party, for instance, believes that marriage should be a matter of personal liberty, not requiring permission from the state. Libertarians argue that marriage is a right, and that by allowing the state to exercise control over marriage, it is implied that we merely have privilege, not the right, to marry. As an example, those born in the US receive a birth certificate, not a birth license. Some Christian groups also argue that a marriage is a contract between a man and a woman presided over by God, so no authorization from the state is required. In some US states, the state is cited as a party in the marriage contract which is seen by some as an infringement.

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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    1.)read a great op-ed that basically said civil unions = marriage.
    2.)the difference is civil unions are a touchdown for the gay community, but gay marriage is spiking the ball in the face of their perceived enemies. I agree with that.
    3.) Lets just take marriage out of the government's hands and let them hand out civil unions to anyone who wishes to apply.
    4.)Why wouldn't that work and make both sides happy?! Honestly
    1.) well the great op-ed is wrong because they are factually not equal
    2.) well since civil unions are factually not equal it would be more like a loss of yards so that fails too
    3.) marriage is a contract and has to be protected by the government. In fact some of the rights/protections offered by the marriage contract cant be obtained any other way.
    4.) when it comes to equal rights nobody cares about making both sides happy. What was the solution to make both sides happy for slavery, minority rights, womens rights, interracial marriage etc?
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    Re: Senate to vote on gay rights bill by Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    totally GUESSING but my guess is its old legislation still in there since it was first written in 1994 "I think"
    but with the fall of DADT i would guess its meaningless anyway
    That was exactly why I was wondering. The military has adopted just fine since the repeal of DADT. There was a few brush fires at the get go, but when the brass came down hard on those who were refusing to go along with the program, things even out and are running smooth.
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