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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    As I already stated, this will go all the way to SCOTUS, where those provisions will be killed.
    I take it your answer means you haven't heard anything either.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    dont fall for the lies

    safety is the smoke screen its not real its made up, its a complete lie. These clinics are already operating by the standards, rules, protocols and procedures the medical community have in place and many other places that conduct the same rated procedures dont have to have these EXTRA standards made up by legislation and not by safety studies or requirements from the medical community.

    Its blatantly obvious that this is people trying to push there personal morals and restrict abortion only when its written to only effect abortion clinics and not any other healthcare facilities that do similar rated (risk level) procedures.

    Its complete BS and it makes me laugh that people try to use that false guise

    Now having said that if the medical community, the FDA and or medical/science suggested or showed this needed done Id be 100% for it.
    But the fact remains its not.
    I kinda wondered...

    I think the recent decision ( I think it's the most recent?) to reinstate the provisions because they are not unconstitutional (I think that's what the second ruling said?) might be an attempt to get the supreme court to address it...or something like that...since apparently this recent ruling references one of the SCOTUS's rulings.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    A thought occurs...

    If this were REALLY about making abortions safer, instead of closing clinics which were considered unsafe for whatever reason (not close enough to a hospital?), it would provide funds to upgrade facilities near the most at-risk areas...


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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    A thought occurs...
    moo
    If this were REALLY about making abortions I, instead of closing clinics which were considered unsafe for whatever reason (not close enough to a hospital?), it would provide funds to upgrade facilities near the most at-risk areas...


    Maybe?
    Texans generally dont support abortion, that wouldnt fly. So they went this route. That we allow unborn children to be needlessly murdered is galling to begin with.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    A thought occurs...

    If this were REALLY about making abortions safer, instead of closing clinics which were considered unsafe for whatever reason (not close enough to a hospital?), it would provide funds to upgrade facilities near the most at-risk areas...


    Maybe?
    not only that if they were truly unsafe by standards, medical science regulations or FDA protocols etc they would just be shut down for violating the law/rules.

    But since they factually are just as safe as any other medical facility of thier kind people are trying to invent a false reason to shut them down based on ntohng more that their want to force their opinions on others.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    not only that if they were truly unsafe by standards, medical science regulations or FDA protocols etc they would just be shut down for violating the law/rules.

    But since they factually are just as safe as any other medical facility of thier kind people are trying to invent a false reason to shut them down based on ntohng more that their want to force their opinions on others.
    This is really a passionate issue for you, did you ever have an abortion?

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Let's make a gentleman's bet. Loser has to wear the avatar the winner chooses for a month. My bet is that the Supreme Court will uphold this decision. If you are so sure they won't, then put your avatar where your mouth is. We got a bet?
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    This is really a passionate issue for you, did you ever have an abortion?

    how would i have one?

    anyway passionate? not really
    just entertained by the lies and games people play to dishonestly infring on others when the fact remains this legislation has nothing to do with safety
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    how would i have one?

    anyway passionate? not really
    just entertained by the lies and games people play to dishonestly infring on others when the fact remains this legislation has nothing to do with safety
    Lies and games? Why do you think that is? Is life so meaningless to people that support abortion rights for any circumstances? What personal gain does anyone get from opposing abortion? I can give you the gains generated by people who support abortions including the abortion industry.

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    1.)Lies and games?
    2.)Why do you think that is?
    3.) Is life so meaningless to people that support abortion rights for any circumstances?
    4.) What personal gain does anyone get from opposing abortion?
    5.) I can give you the gains generated by people who support abortions including the abortion industry.
    1.) yes thats a fact
    2.) see above
    3.) i can only answer for me and for me the answer is no. Like i said earlier if this legislation was honestly based on saftey and medical science standards and protocols id be all for it.

    also said earlier that if the legislation just want to make a soft ban on abortion (meaning certain exceptions would still be allowed after 20 weeks) I personally would support it. But like many other bills it would probably be ruled unconstitutional.

    See for me since i care about BOTH lives i want something in the medial and mane up healthcare restrictions isnt the way to go.

    4.) again i can only answer for myself and honestly, i have no idea. Morally, logically and using reality i see no "personal" gain from trying to force views on others and violate current legal and human rights unless of course thats what people want. They want to force thier opinions on others and dont care about anythign else.

    5.) no, you can give me what you think the gains are like i did. I can tell you what my peronsal gain is.

    SInce i care about both lives and i understand the fact that there is factually not way to ban abortion or abortions with no limits at all and not violate legal and human rights of the ZEF or woman. I choose to support something in the middle and not something lopsided or one side.

    I like standing up for legal and human rights and i like trying to do whats fair and good for the rules, laws, rights and freedoms of the country.

    thats what i get out of it.

    Like i said if this legislation was honestly about saftey and supported by the medical science community i would also support it

    If it just tried to make a soft cap at 20 weeks i would support it

    But thats factually not the case so i dont support it or its dishonest fallacies.

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