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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    Uh-huh. But who cares?
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    You're free to your opinion. There are quite a few that don't see the holocaust as a human rights violation, too.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    They are referred to as holocaust deniers.
    Yes, they are. And they're just as irrational.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Yes, they are. And they're just as irrational.
    Pretty much, with only a slight difference.

    Technically, and this is a meager technicality - Holocaust deniers may or may not be bigoted anti-Semites. There's all this evidence that this awful thing happened and they're denying that it ever happened. You can be a Holocaust denier but not think the actions committed in the Holocaust were permissible, as those are two different variables in terms of what someone may or may not think.

    Of course there were folks at the time - at the very least the ones running the operation - and probably some folks today who think that it's okay to kill Jews because they aren't really human beings.

    The pro-abortion camp is more akin to the latter than the former, but there's some of the former in terms of those so horrifically ignorant of science that they think no one is even killed when a homicide has objectively taken place.

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    Exactly. You have no rebuttals to my statements.

    We can all see that.
    And yet all of your statements stand rebutted, including tit for tat with the insults, but you won't be getting any more tat from me on that measure.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    How does abortion 'transcend' this? Are you elevating a fetus above those Americans already born?
    This is why I think of the abortion banners as Moral Fascists. They are so convinced of the moral superiority of their beliefs that they think their beliefs "transcend" anything and everything else. Other people's moral codes, the law, the constitution, etc are all meaningless in relation to their imagined moral superiority. The sanctimony is so complete that they even think it's OK if they lie to promote their sick and perverse agenda.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    Then you probably can't understand the impact of an attack on human rights.

    No....the comparison to pregnancy is relevant...so apparently you dont understand the impact of an attack on a woman's human rights.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    And yet all of your statements stand rebutted, including tit for tat with the insults, but you won't be getting any more tat from me on that measure.
    Perhaps in your imagination but not in writing in this thread. Please, give me the post numbers where you gave the rebuttals.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    This is why I think of the abortion banners as Moral Fascists. They are so convinced of the moral superiority of their beliefs that they think their beliefs "transcend" anything and everything else. Other people's moral codes, the law, the constitution, etc are all meaningless in relation to their imagined moral superiority. The sanctimony is so complete that they even think it's OK if they lie to promote their sick and perverse agenda.
    So is it fair to say that pro-choice people are moral fascists? Literally, from my perspective they are permitting the unethical and inhumane killings of millions and millions of human lives. If someone believes that an unethical mass slaughter of a segment of the population is occurring, how could they not believe that this trumps someone's "personal choice" or believe that the laws, as they are currently, are wrong and massive violations of human rights? Are you trumping someone else's choice or pushing your own "moral superiority" when you support laws against brutal murder? I mean, who are you to say that a woman can't dismember her husband or children and vacuum their pieces into a machine to be disposed of. It's not crazy to believe that the law is imperfect and may allow or injustice, it did with slavery after all.

    You should look at perspective before assigning such judgements, or you could just irrationally cling to slander with your arguments.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    So is it fair to say that pro-choice people are moral fascists?
    No, it's not

    Literally, from my perspective they are permitting the unethical and inhumane killings of millions and millions of human lives. If someone believes that an unethical mass slaughter of a segment of the population is occurring, how could they not believe that this trumps someone's "personal choice" or believe that the laws, as they are currently, are wrong and massive violations of human rights? Are you trumping someone else's choice or pushing your own "moral superiority" when you support laws against brutal murder?
    No, my own personal morality has nothing to do with it. I am saying that the law and the constitution trumps any one person's moral code

    I mean, who are you to say that a woman can't dismember her husband or children and vacuum their pieces into a machine to be disposed of. It's not crazy to believe that the law is imperfect and may allow or injustice, it did with slavery after all.

    You should look at perspective before assigning such judgements, or you could just irrationally cling to slander with your arguments.
    It's not my place, or any other individual's place, to say whether someone can dismember their spouse or children. It's the law that says that.

    All you've done is demonstrate an inability to see anything but a personal moral code when it comes to the law. Nothing you've said demonstrates the slightest recognition that we live under the Rule Of Law. Your very own words reveal that the only thing you consider relevant to the setting of laws is one's moral code.

    And you wonder why I think of the abortion banners as Moral Fascists!
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    No....the comparison to pregnancy is relevant...so apparently you dont understand the impact of an attack on a woman's human rights.
    A human right, other than self defense, does not give one the right to kill.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    A human right, other than self defense, does not give one the right to kill.
    Here is the problem I have with Pro-lifers. The pro-lifers are saying the woman should have to carry the baby to term, while going through all the physical and mental changes to their body, while the man has no responsibility to ANYHTING LEGALLY. They say the woman should accept "personal responsibility" for having sex and getting pregnant, however, there is NO LEGAL requirement for the man to do ANYTHING during the pregnancy at all. So it's all on the woman.

    Pro-lifers cannot pull the child support card either, becuase child support goes for either the man or woman. So where is the LEGAL responsibility of the man?

    When I see pro-lifers lobying congress to hold the man legally responsible DURING the pregnancy, maybe then I will relook at my stance on being pro-choice. But with everything falling on the woman, I don't support that.

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