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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    1.)I beleive any control of abortion should include exceptions for rape and health of the mother under the philosophy of Self Defense. Self Defense is the only time I believe that killing another human is acceptable.

    2.) I disagree, unless it's in self defense.



    Of course.
    1.) well there is already a risk of life, always, it may be small sometimes and it maybe be large sometimes but the risk is always there and if you remove the choice of taking that risk its a violation.
    2.) you disagreement has been factually proved wrong.

    of course since you disagree all you have to do is provide anythign factual that supports your claim
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    1.)I think we're either using different definitions of "accept", or we just have different takes on what it means.
    excellent.
    2.)Even if you gave people the bald facts, they would apply their own interpretations and still disagree.
    3.)You can't though. Subjectivity is an inherent part of being human....
    4.) Then they are actually thinking that the "other middle" is the fringe segment - for some, there is no middle ground except agreement with them.
    5.) I don't know much about RvW, really - apart from it being current law...and me not knowing exactly what that means...but I tend to agree that it's one of the best options out of a barrel of bad choices.
    You can't get everyone to agree, some will do so out of contrariness.
    I was actually referring to other stuff. Plus back patting hurts my shoulder.
    1.) theres only one to use
    the conversation has always been about "forcing personal acceptance"
    and that is impossible to do
    it being legal doesnt force acceptance at all
    this fact hasnt changed
    2.) that their issue to deal with
    3.) you just showed how it is done, the framework is put in place and its done. People may disagree but unless the frame work is chnged its menaignless
    4.) hence their denial of reality and facts
    5.) well its definitely middle ground. It use viability (50% viability) as a marker and at 24weeks
    way better than any extreme option
    6.) 1 agree and said as much
    7.) i was patting your back you werent, but if your shoulder hurts youll have to rub on your own ointment
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    1.)Again, at its most basic level, there is no right violated when the state protects the right to life of all living humans.
    2.)To claim otherwise remains an exercise in absurdity and futility.
    3.)All humans have a natural right to life and all humans are created equal.
    1.) agreed which will NOT be done if abortion is banned, good job!
    2.) also agree which is why abortion cant be banned, another good job!
    3.) which is why the only thing close to equal is something in the middle ans not banning abortion.

    these facts wont change

    currently your view sees the woman as a lesser and not equal this fact has been proven over and over again.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional [W:167:202:330]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Once more, extremist ideology has been defeated in the courts. This will most likely move up to the Supreme Court, where I expect 2 things will happen.

    1) SCOTUS will uphold the ruling, saying the Texas law places an undue burden on women.

    2) Some here will call Justice Roberts a RINO. Never mind that he will have upheld the Constitution, and left ideology out of his decision.

    Of course, for some of the "smaller government crowd, they really do want big government when it suits their own desires to force their own religious beliefs on others.

    Article is here.
    Late term abortion is murder, and anyone who supports late term abortions is an extremist and a murderer....

    IMO, these feminists and progressives murder babies as a hobby just to "embrace" their delusion of civil liberties and to spite the pro-life crowed.

    It's really disgusting....

    Anyone who supports late term abortions should be treated like the savage killers they are... They deserve no respect - nor should they be treated as "human" - in my book they're nothing more than rabid rodents.

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) theres only one to use
    the conversation has always been about "forcing personal acceptance"
    and that is impossible to do
    it being legal doesnt force acceptance at all
    this fact hasnt changed
    Not even a little? /cry
    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    2.) that their issue to deal with
    Not entirely. If enough people believe an incorrect interpretation, it can become a larger problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    3.) you just showed how it is done, the framework is put in place and its done. People may disagree but unless the frame work is changed its menaignless
    The framework allows for change, though - if enough disagree, it can change somewhat.
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    4.) hence their denial of reality and facts
    People don't like being wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    5.) well its definitely middle ground. It use viability (50% viability) as a marker and at 24weeks
    way better than any extreme option
    Yep.
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    6.) 1 agree and said as much
    Yep.
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    7.) i was patting your back you weren't, but if your shoulder hurts youll have to rub on your own ointment
    Completely understandable.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional [W:167:202:330]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Late term abortion is murder, and anyone who supports late term abortions is an extremist and a murderer....

    IMO, these feminists and progressives murder babies as a hobby just to "embrace" their delusion of civil liberties and to spite the pro-life crowed.

    It's really disgusting....

    Anyone who supports late term abortions should be treated like the savage killers they are... They deserve no respect - nor should they be treated as "human" - in my book they're nothing more than rabid rodents.
    Yeah that's it. They go around murdering for fun. Obama told them to.

    We've been found out guys. Quick, to the Fortress of Solitude! Somebody needs to make sure we tell the media to cover for us.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional [W:167:202:330]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Yeah that's it. They go around murdering for fun. Obama told them to.

    We've been found out guys. Quick, to the Fortress of Solitude! Somebody needs to make sure we tell the media to cover for us.
    You don't get a Fortress of Solitude, that's Superman's place, and he's a good guy.

    You obviously have to settle for some evil lair. Bad guys always have evil lairs.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    1.)Not even a little? /cry
    2.)Not entirely. If enough people believe an incorrect interpretation, it can become a larger problem.
    3.) The framework allows for change, though - if enough disagree, it can change somewhat.
    4.) People don't like being wrong.
    1.)lol no because i already gave factual example after example
    2.) a problem created by them that doesnt change the facts
    3.) this is true it does allow for change in a certain way and those people randomly stomping thier feet and crying and just making claims doesnt get it done
    4.) SOME people dont like it. Ive been wrong plenty it doesnt impact me at all, normal people simply learn from the experience.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional [W:167:202:330]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    You don't get a Fortress of Solitude, that's Superman's place, and he's a good guy.

    You obviously have to settle for some evil lair. Bad guys always have evil lairs.
    You're right. Sorry, I meant the Legion of Doom lair

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional [W:167:202:330]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Late term abortion is murder, and anyone who supports late term abortions is an extremist and a murderer....

    2.) IMO, these feminists and progressives murder babies as a hobby just to "embrace" their delusion of civil liberties and to spite the pro-life crowed.

    3.) It's really disgusting....

    4.) Anyone who supports late term abortions should be treated like the savage killers they are... They deserve no respect - nor should they be treated as "human" - in my book they're nothing more than rabid rodents.
    1.) who was talking about illegal late term abortions? this bill certainly is not nor is the OP you quoted
    2.) well that opinion is factually wrong not to mention the millions of non feminists and non progressives that support pro-choice, do they count or no
    3.) you are free to have this opinion but since its based on the aforementioned false statement it doesnt amount to much but a feeling based on a fallacy.
    4.) see #1 this is a strawman that i dont believe was mentioned here but i could be mistaken
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