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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    Anything else on the rest of it?
    Why don't we address the fundamental flaw in your premise, first?
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    What other life? Are you referring to a 'potential' life that a woman is carrying? Only she, the woman, can decide what the value of that life "may be". If she chooses not to risk her own life or long-term health for it, then that is up to her. It is a complete unknown, while she is a viable part of society. Only she can consider what the impact of a new baby in her life would mean. Only she can decide if others would end up being responsible for it...and if that was fair.

    The 'quality' of the unborn is completely unknown....it can only be judged by it's impact on its host until it is born. That is just IMO.
    It is not a "potential" life. It is a living, growing human. It is an actual life. Is there any other situation where you get to judge, arbitrarily, what life is worthy of continuation, and what isn't?
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    It is not a "potential" life. It is a living, growing human. It is an actual life. Is there any other situation where you get to judge, arbitrarily, what life is worthy of continuation, and what isn't?
    Yes

    With DNR's and the continuation of life-preserving medical care, when people are incompetent to make decisions for themselves.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    Yes

    With DNR's and the continuation of life-preserving medical care, when people are incompetent to make decisions for themselves.
    A DNR is a choice made by the person in question.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    A DNR is a choice made by the person in question.
    No, not always
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    No, not always
    Usually. In cases where it's not, there are intricate laws and specific criteria for implementing it on an incompetent patient...and always where the chance of survival is nill.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    Usually. In cases where it's not, there are intricate laws and specific criteria for implementing it on an incompetent patient...and always where the chance of survival is nill.
    In cases of pregnancy, the ZEF is usually not aborted.

    And the laws aren't that intricate, nor does the chance of survival need to be nil.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    In cases of pregnancy, the ZEF is usually not aborted.

    And the laws aren't that intricate, nor does the chance of survival need to be nil.
    Terminating a patient that is likely to survive their current predicament is murder and the situation is not comparable to to terminating a presumably healthy fetus.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    Terminating a patient that is likely to survive their current predicament is murder and the situation is not comparable to to terminating a presumably healthy fetus.
    Nonsense. It's perfectly legal to refuse medical treatment no matter what the circumstances are
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    Nonsense. It's perfectly legal to refuse medical treatment no matter what the circumstances are
    That's a personal choice. Not something imposed.
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