Sex is awesome...why should women not be allowed to choose when and where they have it? That is a moral decision that is different for every person, man or woman. And since she has several responsible options *if* she gets pregnant, keep, adopt, abortion....who are you to suggest she not have sex?
And those are very real risks to any pregnancy.
My friend's wife, having their 2nd kid....had no known issues leading up to labor. She died in childbirth, baby shortly thereafter. It may be anecdotal, but statistically it is very real.
You do not have a 'right' not to be offended. Such things do not even AFFECT you. And they are personal and are none of your business (which is what Roe vs Wade is based on). Certainly no place for the govt to interfere (I believe the govt shouldnt be involved in marriage, period).
Not to mention that there are also many people in the community or society that DO NOT feel as you do, we are not a homogeneous society.
So again...you are entitled to your beliefs and opinions, but not allowed to force them on others. You didnt explicitly say you would vote for such law but it's my impression that you would. I apologize if I'm incorrect.
As pointed out already, a fetus does NOT have equal rights with the woman. It is not even born yet and may never reach term. I will post this example again:
--even most pro-life people recognize the right of the mother to terminate a pregnancy if her own life is in danger or in the cases or rape or incest (yes, I realize that you personally do not).
--there are no laws in our society that allow an individual to kill another (born) person to save their own life or to save themselves from mental anguish.
Obviously, it's recognized that the unborn do NOT have equal rights.
And re: save their own life, it's not about self-defense. That is about someone with *intent* trying to take your life (infringe on your right to life). It's more like you cannot kill someone to take their liver to save your own life.
Should we make it illegal for men to spill their seed solo? Isn't that the destruction of life? The second sperm inseminates an egg it is suddenly a baby? ... but not before?
From that moment until 9 months later is a spectrum. Halting the process in the early stages is not murdering a baby.
No, you did not actually respond to the statement. My statement was straight forward and doesnt need the philosophical support of Nietzche. I cannot think of any reasons why people choose to have kids that is not selfish, so claiming that abortion is 'selfish' isnt a rebuttal to the discussion.
Last edited by Fenton; 11-21-13 at 02:49 PM. Reason: cuz I like to party...
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