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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Point taken, don't think it is pleasant, an easy decision, not a consequence but rather it is however the easy way out for some and that decision will have to be reconciled some day. I was always taught that there are consequences for poor choices made and if I got a woman pregnant that is my responsibility as well as hers. I have met people who never accept responsibility for anything and thus killing the unborn isn't a problem for them. It should be and that is the problem today with society, IMO
    Having an abortion when one cannot or will not properly care for a child IS taking responsibility. It is NOT responsible to birth a child you cannot or will not care for or to pawn it off on others to raise.

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    With all due respect, I see a lot of people say that it's to protect life, and that there is nothing religious about it, but virtually every protest against an abortion clinic I have ever seen was done by a religious organization. Say what you will, but this issue IS about forcing religion down the throats of others.

    Going by that standard you could argue the anti-slavery movement was about "shoving religion down people's throats". Just because it's a view held by religious people does not mean one can't argue the perspective from a non-religious bias. Second, attacking them for being religious just skirts the idea of addressing their arguments on their own merits

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i underlined the point where your argument runs into a problem.

    if abortion is legal, how can it be classified as murder?
    Murder is just not a legal term. Hence why people can say "the nazi murdered a bunch of jews"


    murder: To kill inhumanely or barbarously; as in warfare

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    I believe Dan and I have a bet on this issue. The loser having to sport a avatar chosen by the winning party, which I believe is ME...

    Soooooo....

    Here ya go..

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    Murder is just not a legal term. Hence why people can say "the nazi murdered a bunch of jews"


    murder: To kill inhumanely or barbarously; as in warfare

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    Abortion is neither inhumane nor barbarous
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I believe Dan and I have a bet on this issue. The loser having to sport a avatar chosen by the winning party, which I believe is ME...

    Soooooo....

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    Nice try. SCOTUS has not even heard the case yet. They let the law stand WHILE THE CASE IS BEING ARGUED, by refusing to issue an injunction against the law, while it is being heard by SCOTUS. The case is on the docket, and as soon as a RULING has been made by SCOTUS, I will sport that as my avatar if I lose.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Abortion is neither inhumane nor barbarous
    1) That is rather irrelevant to the claim that murder is solely a legal term

    2) seems rather dependent on your view of the fetus

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    1) That is rather irrelevant to the claim that murder is solely a legal term

    2) seems rather dependent on your view of the fetus
    1) It is relevant to the claim that abortion is murder because abortion fits neither definition of murder

    2) No, it does not. Medical procedures are neither inhumane nor barbarous. Neither is abortion
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Regardless of what peoples personal opinion is, the SCOTUS decided to let this stand till it reaches them proper, that means less abortions. For my money, that's a damned fine thing.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Nice try. SCOTUS has not even heard the case yet. They let the law stand WHILE THE CASE IS BEING ARGUED, by refusing to issue an injunction against the law, while it is being heard by SCOTUS. The case is on the docket, and as soon as a RULING has been made by SCOTUS, I will sport that as my avatar if I lose.
    WASHINGTON (AP) — A sharply divided Supreme Court on Tuesday allowed Texas to continue enforcing abortion restrictions that opponents say have led more than a third of the state's clinics to stop providing abortions.

    The justices voted 5-4 to leave in effect a provision requiring doctors who perform abortions in clinics to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital.
    The court's conservative majority refused the plea of Planned Parenthood and several Texas abortion clinics to overturn a preliminary federal appeals court ruling that allowed the provision to take effect.

    True, but it doesn't look like SCOTUS will overturn the law.

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