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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Where did I say that? You always seem to make things up. It takes two to create a baby and both have responsibilities. Child support laws affect the man or didn't you know that?
    I didn't say YOU personally, I said conservatives for the most part. Where are the laws proposing the personal responsibility of the man DURING the pregnancy. Child support laws work BOTH for the man AND woman. Where are the laws for the man DURING pregnancy? There is currently NO personal responsibility LEGALLY of the man DURING pregnancy, yet conservatives want laws for the woman DURING pregnancy.

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    I didn't say YOU personally, I said conservatives for the most part. Where are the laws proposing the personal responsibility of the man DURING the pregnancy. Child support laws work BOTH for the man AND woman. Where are the laws for the man DURING pregnancy? There is currently NO personal responsibility LEGALLY of the man DURING pregnancy, yet conservatives want laws for the woman DURING pregnancy.
    Sorry, but there are indeed laws regarding child support and financial responsibility for the men. What laws do you want to create for a man that isn't on the books? I support personal responsibility for both the man and the woman so not sure what your point is. Name the law? There are laws against rape and incest so give me another?

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    Sorry, but there are indeed laws regarding child support and financial responsibility for the men.
    Yes, and they are also applied to the woman as well. Where is the law for men DURING pregnancy since you want to force laws on the woman during pregnancy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What laws do you want to create for a man that isn't on the books? I support personal responsibility for both the man and the woman so not sure what your point is. Name the law? There are laws against rape and incest so give me another?
    How about financial support DURING the pregnancy. You say it takes too, but I only see conservatives going after the woman.

    No you don't, what personal responsiblty is LEGALLY binding for the man DURING pregnancy? You want to LEGALLY bind the woman to person responsibility but nowhere is there any for the man.

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, and they are also applied to the woman as well. Where is the law for men DURING pregnancy since you want to force laws on the woman during pregnancy.



    How about financial support DURING the pregnancy. You say it takes too, but I only see conservatives going after the woman.

    No you don't, what personal responsiblty is LEGALLY binding for the man DURING pregnancy? You want to LEGALLY bind the woman to person responsibility but nowhere is there any for the man.
    Propose the bill and I will support it. think your third party candidates are in position to do that? What part of my support for personal responsibility don't you understand?

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Propose the bill and I will support it. think your third party candidates are in position to do that? What part of my support for personal responsibility don't you understand?
    I have and NO conservative law maker takes it up. So when are YOU going to advocate to YOUR precious GOP to do that? Afterall personal responsibility is for BOTH right?

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I have and NO conservative law maker takes it up. So when are YOU going to advocate to YOUR precious GOP to do that? Afterall personal responsibility is for BOTH right?
    First of all I am a conservative not a Republican and have voted for more Democrats than you have probably voted Republican. Neither the GOP or the Democratic Party are precious to me. I support personal responsibility period and since it takes two to make a baby that includes responsibility for both men and women. You seem to not understand that concept. I have always advocated personal responsibility from conception to birth and beyond. There are services available to a pregnant woman that handles financial responsibility for the woman. I have no problem holding the man responsible for that financial responsibility. Think that will cut the number of abortions?

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There are services available to a pregnant woman that handles financial responsibility for the woman. I have no problem holding the man responsible for that financial responsibility. Think that will cut the number of abortions?
    Yeah right, you would really vote Dem if the GOP doubled the debt, had a crashing economy, etc. Oh wait, that DID happen and you STILL voted GOP. Sorry, but you have the credibility of Bill Clinton.

    I think that if you are going to try and make a law LEGALLY binding to the woman DURING pregnancy, you should also make a law LEGALLY binding to the man during pregnancy. Until that happens, I will in no way support what the GOP is doing ONLY going after the woman with laws.

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yeah right, you would really vote Dem if the GOP doubled the debt, had a crashing economy, etc. Oh wait, that DID happen and you STILL voted GOP. Sorry, but you have the credibility of Bill Clinton.

    I think that if you are going to try and make a law LEGALLY binding to the woman DURING pregnancy, you should also make a law LEGALLY binding to the man during pregnancy. Until that happens, I will in no way support what the GOP is doing ONLY going after the woman with laws.

    LOL, you are obviously a legend in your own mind all knowing and all caring. You have no idea what you are talking about and making wild claims on a message board simply have no consequences but do make you a waste of time.

    I am waiting for you to tell me who I should have voted for in Bush vs. Gore and Bush vs. Kerry. think either Gore or Kerry wouldn't have made the debt worse than Bush and the Congress? We have seen what Obama has done with the Democrat controlled Congress so why would it be any different with President Gore or President Kerry? All you do is whine and complain from the sidelines.

    Where are the Democrats on the issue of legal binding for the man or the woman? The Democrat answer is just kill the living being if that is what you want to do. where are the Republicans going after women only? It is a personal responsibility issue and unless it is rape or incest how is the woman not responsible for making the choice to have sex? Don't think a man can have sex alone

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, you are obviously a legend in your own mind all knowing and all caring. You have no idea what you are talking about and making wild claims on a message board simply have no consequences but do make you a waste of time.
    Nope, I'm spot on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am waiting for you to tell me who I should have voted for in Bush vs. Gore and Bush vs. Kerry. think either Gore or Kerry wouldn't have made the debt worse than Bush and the Congress? We have seen what Obama has done with the Democrat controlled Congress so why would it be any different with President Gore or President Kerry? All you do is whine and complain from the sidelines.
    According to YOUR values you should have voted Dem (or third party) since the GOP had screwed up. But you voted along party lines. I'm quite sure BOTH would have raised the debt, which brings us to the logically conclusion that BOTH the Dem/Rep are into big government and raising debt. however, sheeple such as yourself continue the path of destruction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Where are the Democrats on the issue of legal binding for the man or the woman? The Democrat answer is just kill the living being if that is what you want to do. where are the Republicans going after women only? It is a personal responsibility issue and unless it is rape or incest how is the woman not responsible for making the choice to have sex? Don't think a man can have sex alone
    The Dems in wanting Pro-Choice are wanting the govenrment OUT of it for the man and woman as much as society will allow. The GOP wants ONLY the woman to be LEGALLY binded to the pregnancy and gives the man a free pass during the pregnancy. Child support laws AFTER the birth are applied to BOTH the man and woman so you can't use child support as an excuse.

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) you are welcome to this opinion but thats all it is.
    millions of people feel obligated and are driven by their morals to have an abortion what makes your morals factually better than theirs
    2.) another opinion that is simply set up by your subjective standards that deem ok but the rest evil.
    there are many that think any abortion is evil and view you as evil and sinful, what do you think of those people? are they right?
    3.) this is simply unrealistic and has never been done throughout time
    When killing an unborn child is morally correct to, you've lost all grounds in morality.
    Abortion, is murder covered under the false flag of "choice"
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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