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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Do you believe that the death penalty is murder?

    Yes, the death penalty is prescribed by law for the actions taken by an individual for committing a heinous crime. What exactly did the living fetus do to deserve death?

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    1.)That is true...however one has achieved a life while one is only yet 'potential'. It may or may not ever come to fruition.
    2.) Religion has it's place in the argument *personally*..however not to force on others.
    3.) We have no laws that allow the termination of a living (born) human to save another from death (mother's life is in danger) or mental anguish (in cases of rape or incest). This is an acknowledgement that most pro-life proponents accept...and the law does of course.
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    So the rights of both are not equal nor should they be. One may never even be born....
    5.) the woman's rights should not be superseded.
    1.) no they are both a live and both have life in regards to living.
    now in regards to subjective things like a family member saying "you have no life" then yes
    2.) agreed
    3.) not sure what you are quite saying here, i think we are just misunderstanding eachother but in general not true, i can easily kill you in self defense, ill have to prove thats what it was but there are laws protecting me in that regard. You can also kill in protection of bodily harm including rape in many areas
    4.) this i agree with, they are not.
    I do however think they should be BUT the reality is, thats factually impossible due to where the ZEF resides and how it comes to term.
    5.) I agree in the majority of cases until viability then its more tricky
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Abortion; killing a child because mom is irresponsible. With the exception of life of the mother, child or rape, abortion is the face of absolute evil. If you are not ready to deal with a child dont have sex. Men and women
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    1.)Abortion; killing a child because mom is irresponsible.
    2.) With the exception of life of the mother, child or rape, abortion is the face of absolute evil.
    3.) If you are not ready to deal with a child dont have sex. Men and women
    This applies to.
    1.) you are welcome to this opinion but thats all it is.
    millions of people feel obligated and are driven by their morals to have an abortion what makes your morals factually better than theirs
    2.) another opinion that is simply set up by your subjective standards that deem ok but the rest evil.
    there are many that think any abortion is evil and view you as evil and sinful, what do you think of those people? are they right?
    3.) this is simply unrealistic and has never been done throughout time
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) you are welcome to this opinion but thats all it is.
    millions of people feel obligated and are driven by their morals to have an abortion what makes your morals factually better than theirs
    2.) another opinion that is simply set up by your subjective standards that deem ok but the rest evil.
    there are many that think any abortion is evil and view you as evil and sinful, what do you think of those people? are they right?
    3.) this is simply unrealistic and has never been done throughout time
    What you and your supporters are doing is cheapening life and destroying personal responsibility. In other words there are no consequences for personal choices made including the choice to have sex. If you can justify killing a living being you can justify just about anything. That belief will have to be reconciled at some time in the future. Would love to hear how you explain that belief and try to justify it on economic reasons

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

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    1.)What you and your supporters are doing is cheapening life and destroying personal responsibility. In other words there are no consequences for personal choices made including the choice to have sex.

    2.) If you can justify killing a living being you can justify just about anything.

    3.) That belief will have to be reconciled at some time in the future.

    4.) Would love to hear how you explain that belief and try to justify it on economic reasons
    1.) you are welcome to this opinion but it cant be backup by any facts what so ever. Also I cant be grouped with others im just me. THere are people that would say people who allow any exceptions cheapen life and destroying personal responsibility. Are they more right than you?

    What about the people that say the same thing about you because they feel you cheapen life because you want to infringe on the womans legal and human rights destroying personal responsibility, are they more right?

    2.) another opinion so all the people that kill anything and allow exceptions in abortion can just simply justify about anything huh? wow thats just about everybody. Again you are free to have that opinion but theres no facts to support it.

    3.) Im fine with this and my believes which you probably have no clue about and which are support by my morals and religion, but unlike you thats meaningless to law and i understand that.

    4.) i have no clue what you are asking me here since i never made such a statement, gotta be more specific please. But in general i can explain and justify anything i say.
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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What you and your supporters are doing is cheapening life and destroying personal responsibility. In other words there are no consequences for personal choices made including the choice to have sex. If you can justify killing a living being you can justify just about anything. That belief will have to be reconciled at some time in the future. Would love to hear how you explain that belief and try to justify it on economic reasons
    You talk about personal responsibility, but conservatives only want to apply that responsibility to the woman and not the man. Tell us, what law have conservatives proposed for the man during the pregnancy? Oh yeah, none.

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Good call by the Supreme Court!

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    AGENT J;1062567903]1.) you are welcome to this opinion but it cant be backup by any facts what so ever. Also I cant be grouped with others im just me. THere are people that would say people who allow any exceptions cheapen life and destroying personal responsibility. Are they more right than you?
    Well, thank you for allowing me my opinion just like you are entitled to yours. Neither of us are going to change the other person's mind. I will be able to reconcile my opinions at some time in the future with "my" God. Good luck with yours. Life is too precious to destroy and I would know, lost my wife of over 40 years


    What about the people that say the same thing about you because they feel you cheapen life because you want to infringe on the womans legal and human rights destroying personal responsibility, are they more right?
    Because a woman has a legal right doesn't make that a moral right and yes there is such a thing as right and wrong in the real world. Being legal doesn't change the fact that women killing their baby won't have to reconcile that decision in the future. You see in the liberal world there are no consequences for bad decisions but at some time in the future there will be.

    2.) another opinion so all the people that kill anything and allow exceptions in abortion can just simply justify about anything huh? wow thats just about everybody. Again you are free to have that opinion but theres no facts to support it.
    Thank you again, that is indeed my opinion just like the free will I was given to have that opinion. There are always consequences for personal decisions, good or bad. Today's liberals are trying to change that. People are responsible for the choices they make including to have sex. Simply not wanting responsibility doesn't change the fact that people don't have a choice in that area.

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    Re: Fed judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You talk about personal responsibility, but conservatives only want to apply that responsibility to the woman and not the man. Tell us, what law have conservatives proposed for the man during the pregnancy? Oh yeah, none.
    Where did I say that? You always seem to make things up. It takes two to create a baby and both have responsibilities. Child support laws affect the man or didn't you know that?

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