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    NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    The National Security Agency Sunday denied German media reports that President Obama was told in 2010 of NSA spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel and allowed it to continue.


    On Sunday, the German tabloid Bild am Sonntag, citing unnamed intelligence sources, reported that Obama was told by Gen. Keith Alexander, the NSA director, in 2010 that Merkel's phone was being tapped and that Obama allowed it to continue.


    Another report, this time in the German magazine Der Spiegel, said the NSA first started tapping Merkel's cellphone in 2002 when she was leader of the German opposition party.

    NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader
    I spent several hours listening to German radio, and one commentator summed it up well... it was bad news that he knew, probably worse that he didn't know.

    I howled.

    You know... I don't recall Bush getting any passes because he didn't know. Abu Graib comes to mind... and unlike Benghazi... nobody died at Abu Graib.

    I'd lay down pretty good bets that Obama won't be giving any more speeches in Berlin.
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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I spent several hours listening to German radio, and one commentator summed it up well... it was bad news that he knew, probably worse that he didn't know.

    I howled.

    You know... I don't recall Bush getting any passes because he didn't know. Abu Graib comes to mind... and unlike Benghazi... nobody died at Abu Graib.

    I'd lay down pretty good bets that Obama won't be giving any more speeches in Berlin.
    Heya Zimmer Check it out.....I have this up in a Thread where France and Germany are making Demands.

    NSA: permission to spy in Germany.....

    Germany has been under surveillance by the United States for decades, and German leaders have been fully aware of it, says historian Josef Foschepoth. The reason? Secret post-war accords.

    NSA: permission to spy in Germany | Germany | DW.DE | 29.07.2013


    In here.....

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/intern...post1062476171

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    He was never presented with a list of the top world leaders being spied on? Really? I wonder if this is their final answer. If Obama didn't know, then he needs to fire the NSA chief immediately, and take responsibility for being an idiot. As a minimum I would expect him to be a aware of spying going on of world leaders.
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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Zimmer Check it out.....I have this up in a Thread where France and Germany are making Demands.

    NSA: permission to spy in Germany.....

    Germany has been under surveillance by the United States for decades, and German leaders have been fully aware of it, says historian Josef Foschepoth. The reason? Secret post-war accords.

    NSA: permission to spy in Germany | Germany | DW.DE | 29.07.2013


    In here.....

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/intern...post1062476171
    Oh... I don't doubt it. Hell, I'd spy on them too... especially the space kadet Green Party, Linke Partei (Obama's Home), and the SPD. These folks are nuts.

    The FDP, CSU/CDU seem to be OK, but listening into Merekl's calls would give you a good idea where they're headed, tactics, challenges etc.

    The thing is... Obama said he would rectify this crap image Bush supposedly left behind. ROTFLOL... not!

    Obama is distrusted and not respected in the Middle East, now Europe and by his loyal opposition in America. Bush may have been disliked by his opponents, but at least he was respected. When he said something, he meant it... unlike Bill Clinton Obama... who gives weasels a bad name.

    Some foreigners hate Obama... Egyptians have no use for him... The Syria mess made him look like the idiot he is. The Saudi's don't want to have anything with president bow-wow-wow.

    At home he wasn't some slick liar like this Socialist twit we have at the helm today. Couldn't be according to the Socialists because he couldn't put a full sentence together as far as they were concerned.
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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Goodness, it has been a long time ago...but I remember an American getting busted for being a double agent from Isreal and someone on a talk show talking about most nations spend at least as much time and effort spying on their friends as they do their enemies.
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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Oh... I don't doubt it. Hell, I'd spy on them too... especially the space kadet Green Party, Linke Partei (Obama's Home), and the SPD. These folks are nuts.

    The FDP, CSU/CDU seem to be OK, but listening into Merekl's calls would give you a good idea where they're headed, tactics, challenges etc.

    The thing is... Obama said he would rectify this crap image Bush supposedly left behind. ROTFLOL... not!

    Obama is hated, distrusted and not respected in the Middle East, now Europe and by his loyal opposition in America. Bush may have been disliked by his opponents, but at least he was respected. When he said something, he meant it... unlike Bill Clinton Obama... who gives weasels a bad name.

    At home he wasn't some slick liar like this Socialist twit we have at the helm today. Couldn't be according to the Socialists because he couldn't put a full sentence together as far as they were concerned.
    This was more of it..... Even France and the Brits were spying on Germany since 55. All Allied Forces.....

    Obama: Hey, I didn’t know about spying on world leaders!

    The National Security Agency ended a program used to spy on German Chancellor Angela Merkel and a number of other world leaders after an internal Obama administration review started this summer revealed to the White House the existence of the operation, U.S. officials said.

    Officials said the internal review turned up NSA monitoring of some 35 world leaders, in the U.S. government’s first public acknowledgment that it tapped the phones of world leaders. European leaders have joined international outrage over revelations of U.S. surveillance of Ms. Merkel’s phone and of NSA’s monitoring of telephone call data in France.

    The White House cut off some monitoring programs after learning of them, including the one tracking Ms. Merkel and some other world leaders, a senior U.S. official said. Other programs have been slated for termination but haven’t been phased out completely yet, officials said.

    The account suggests President Barack Obama went nearly five years without knowing his own spies were bugging the phones of world leaders. Officials said the NSA has so many eavesdropping operations under way that it wouldn’t have been practical to brief him on all of them......

    Is that what “US officials” want us to think? Let’s pose a couple of basic questions. First, who would bug the head of government of a US ally without having the highest possible level of authorization? That would tend to be a career-ender if it got exposed, especially in the manner in which it did get exposed. Say, has anyone been fired for it? Er … not so far.

    Second, who exactly would be the customer of this data, once collected? Here’s a hint: It’s not going to be the undersecretary of agricultural development at the USDA. The only reason to surveil Angela Merkel is to provide real-time intelligence to the highest level of government about the intentions of the German Chancellor. Furthermore, that intelligence would have to be specified as to its source for the policymaker to validate it for its consideration. If that policymaker is not Barack Obama, then perhaps we should be asking who exactly is making decisions at the top level of government.....snip~

    Obama: Hey, I didn’t know about spying on world leaders! Hot Air

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Obama knows NOTHING!!! He is the Sgt Schultz of American presidents...

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Obama knows NOTHING!!! He is the Sgt Schultz of American presidents...
    Then why did he call for the review back in the summer? Why did he apologize? Why did he stop programs?

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Then why did he call for the review back in the summer? Why did he apologize? Why did he stop programs?
    Because it became public and he got caught?

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    this is probably true. But I doubt it is unique to Obama.
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    Because it became public and he got caught?
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