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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    If these agency heads aren't keeping the commander-in-chief informed, they need to be replaced.

    Obama is a bad leader if he wants this plausible denyability.

    Either the agency heads, or Obama need to resign in disgrace if this is true.
    Surely you have seen the 'trend'...

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Obama is the last to find out about anything. I really love the piece Jon Stewart made on him.


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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Oh, no, this is entirely different. Everybody understands that the CIA and its counterparts everywhere are gathering information on friend and foe. And attempts to obtain latest defense-relevant technology are also expected. "They wouldn't be doing their job".

    But tapping the phone of a leader of an allied country means crossing a whole bunch of red lines. It's just not done. Or so we thought.

    And what exactly was the purpose? To learn what Angela is going to say in defense of Austerity, and give tips to Paul Krugman, for a pre-emptive rebuttal in his NYT column?

    (If it turns out that any kind of information had been leaked, even absolutely by accident, to the German opposition parties - can you imagine the scope of the scandal?)
    It's a different kind of situation, but the similarity between this and Iran-Contra are there. Both Presidents denied knowledge of something that they should have known about. Which tells me that either both were lying, or that the government is beyond the control of the President.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    tells me that either both were lying, or that the government is beyond the control of the President.
    Or both. I mean, if you realize that something you are supposed to control is beyond your control, what are your options?

    More or less, lie or resign.

    All the philosophical and political disagreements apart, if Barack Obama will choose to resign within the next few months or years (hopefully, after replacing a certain certifiable idiot as his automatic replacement), I pledge to send a hundred-dollar bouquet of flowers to the Obamas' house every year, for the rest of my life.

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Obama knows NOTHING!!! He is the Sgt Schultz of American presidents...
    O knows Marx.
    O knows Lenin.
    O know Wright.
    O knows Ayers.
    O knows Rezko.
    O knows Alinsky.
    O knows Prevaricating.

    He's been well trained.

    You know?
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    this is probably true. But I doubt it is unique to Obama.
    You forget? He promised the most transparent administration, and one that would make the word love us again.

    EPIC FAIL... like all things Obama.

    Forgot one in the post above.
    O knows Failure.
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    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Do you really think international spying should be transparent or that was what he was talking about? These talking points are very monotonous.
    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    You forget? He promised the most transparent administration, and one that would make the word love us again.

    EPIC FAIL... like all things Obama.

    Forgot one in the post above.
    O knows Failure.
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Again, it's all about teabagger hate for Obama and it's always the same culprits that are promoting it. None of this was even a consideration before Obama and with other presidents who happened to be all white men.

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    O knows Marx.
    O knows Lenin.
    O know Wright.
    O knows Ayers.
    O knows Rezko.
    O knows Alinsky.
    O knows Prevaricating.

    He's been well trained.

    You know?
    see this is the problem.

    Here you have a perfectly reasonable thing to be upset at Obama about.

    This shows a definite failure in leadership and an abysmal attempt at saving face.

    And you go on this insane, far right wing rant about absolute nonsense...

    You must have a massive bullseye on your foot, cause you shoot it every time you're ahead.

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    Re: NSA denies Obama knew of spying on German leader

    I really cant remember exaclty what the right wing is for anymore. All I know is they are antiObama everything. I bet hundreds died of thirst after Michelle Obama came out encouraging increased water intake to improve hydration and nutrition. Comical sometimes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    see this is the problem.

    Here you have a perfectly reasonable thing to be upset at Obama about.

    This shows a definite failure in leadership and an abysmal attempt at saving face.

    And you go on this insane, far right wing rant about absolute nonsense...

    You must have a massive bullseye on your foot, cause you shoot it every time you're ahead.
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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