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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I think schools should post signs that say "Don't trust God to take care of you, pay attention and do the work."
    The Libbos would sure as hell be pissed off about that...lol!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Always great to remember the story of Judge Roy Moore:

    "Early prayer/Ten Commandments controversy
    Roy Moore's wooden Ten Commandments plaque.

    When Moore's tenure as circuit judge began, he brought his wooden Ten Commandments plaque with him, hanging it on the walls of his courtroom behind his bench. Moore told the Montgomery Advertiser that his intention in hanging the plaque was to fill up the bare space on the courtroom walls and to indicate the importance of the Ten Commandments. He states that it was not his intention to generate controversy; still, as he told the Atlantic, he understood that the potential for controversy was there, but "I wanted to establish the moral foundation of our law."

    Soon after his appointment, when Moore presided over a case where two male strippers (known professionally as "Silk" and "Satin") were charged with murdering a drug addict, the attorney for the defendants objected to the display. This drew the attention of critics, who also objected to Moore's practice of opening court sessions with a prayer beseeching Divine Guidance for jurors in their deliberations. (In at least one instance, Judge Moore asked a clergyman to lead the court's jury pool in prayer.) Though such pre-session prayers were not uncommon in Alabama, having begun many years earlier by George C. Wallace, Jr., when he was a circuit judge, the local branch of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) sent a letter in June 1993 with the threat of a lawsuit if such prayers did not cease.

    On June 20, 1994, the ACLU sent a representative to Moore's courtroom to observe and record the pre-session prayer. Though the organization did not immediately file suit, Moore decried the action as an "act of intimidation" in a post-trial press conference. The incident drew additional attention to Moore just as he was campaigning to hold onto his circuit court seat. In that year's election, Moore won the seat in a landslide victory over local attorney Keith Pitts, who had (unsuccessfully) prosecuted the "Silk and Satin" murder case."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore

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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    God could still mean multiple religions. God is not strictly Christian alone. I know many that use God as in to mean something greater. Regardless, I think their time would be better spent on other endeavors than this one if they "truly" want to help people.
    Good point, because every religion refers to their diety as "God".
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not seeing anyone being required by law to practice religion.
    No, but if this bill passes, it would require public schools to post some form of the national motto "In God We Trust" somewhere.

    That seems to be supporting one religion (you can get into semantics about "it's the national motto" if you want, I suppose) over another.

    Not all religions believe in the same God (or whatever they call it in whatever religion).
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools - abc27 WHTM


    Personally, I kinda agree with some commentary I heard on this, from a local talk radio host.

    To paraphrase him: "I have a problem with the "required" part. If it said "allowed" instead, I'd be fine with it."

    **** that.

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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    **** that.
    My response was more along the lines of "why the hell are you doing this when more important matters are hanging around, just waiting to bite us in the ass."
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    My response was more along the lines of "why the hell are you doing this when more important matters are hanging around, just waiting to bite us in the ass."
    Too lengthy.

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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's no mandate.
    HARRISBURG, Pa. (WHTM) - A bill that would require Pennsylvania's public school districts to display "In God We Trust" in all public school buildings has cleared its first legislative hurdle.
    Emphasis mine.
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Too lengthy.
    Point.
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Emphasis mine.
    It's only the 5th word in the entire article, one would think it would be noticed.


    Then again, it isn't a mandate YET. It just passed a committee, so far.

    Edit: From the article I posted starting the thread:
    House Bill 1728 was reported out of the House Education Committee by a 14-9 vote Wednesday.
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