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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Yeah these folks in Harrisburg aren't that bright. They seem to think prayer is a substitute for doing the work they were hired to do. Back in 2011:

    Harrisburg Hoping God Can Help Balance the Books

    If all the brightest minds in Harrisburg’s government can’t solve the city’s financial problems, maybe God can.

    That seems to be the thinking in Pennsylvania’s capital city, where Mayor Linda Thompson and a host of other religious leaders are about to embark on a three-day fast and prayer campaign to cure the city’s daunting money woes.

    According to a recent analysis from the state’s Department of Community and Economic Development, Harrisburg is likely to end the year with a nearly $3.5 million deficit in its $58 million budget, and things are only expected to get worse.

    By 2015, the deficit is likely to be $10.4 million, which will eat up about 16 percent of the city’s general fund budget.

    And guess what happened?


    Religion in politics is just bullhshyte cover to keep a religious base off of you when you are not doing your job.
    Harrisburg's budget issues have been ongoing for quite awhile now.

    Still not resolved.
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Which religion?
    It favors:
    Religions that calls their god "God."
    Religions with just one main god.
    Religions that trust their god.
    Religions that want government's endorsement.
    Belief systems that support evangelizing and/or publicly promoting their beliefs.


    It excludes:
    Religions that use other names for their god(s).
    Religions with multiple gods.
    Religions that don't trust god(s).
    Belief systems that don't believe that there definitely is a god.
    Belief systems that don't support government endorsement of religion.
    Belief systems that don't support evangelizing or publicly promoting their beliefs.

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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "In God we trust" on a public school is state endorsement of religion.
    But, not a state religion, nor does it abridge the free practice of religion.

    Not allowing, "In God We Trust", abridges the free practice of religion.
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, not a state religion, nor does it abridge the free practice of religion.

    Not allowing, "In God We Trust", abridges the free practice of religion.
    Mandating it does abridge the free non-practice of religion.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    I think schools should post signs that say "Don't trust God to take care of you, pay attention and do the work."

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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I think schools should post signs that say "Don't trust God to take care of you, pay attention and do the work."
    That'd be just as bad.
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, not a state religion, nor does it abridge the free practice of religion.

    Not allowing, "In God We Trust", abridges the free practice of religion.
    Yet requiring it, does.
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    God could still mean multiple religions. God is not strictly Christian alone. I know many that use God as in to mean something greater. Regardless, I think their time would be better spent on other endeavors than this one if they "truly" want to help people.
    Exactly. But being that this is in this country and the God is going to be of the religion of those proposing it... I think it's more than a safe bet. Like I said in my last post... this is politicians using religion as a sleight of hand. I'd bet if someone dug a little, they'd see that something is coming down the pipe in Harrisburg and they'd rather not have people looking at it.
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Mandating it does abridge the free non-practice of religion.
    There's no mandate.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Yet requiring it, does.
    I'm not seeing anyone being required by law to practice religion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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