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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So wait a minute. It's now been shown they HAVE to put this sign up. Just because it is government saying to do it, doesn't mean it's the right or correct thing to do.

    I have no dog in this fight as I don't live in that state, but if I were voters in that state, I would be rather ticked off that money, time, and effort is being spent on this thing.
    A waste of time and money? Oh yeah, for sure.
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    I think the law is stupid. That said, as it's written, I have no issue with it.

    I have no issue with a state dictating that their state schools must have certain things present at a school. I have no issue with a school putting up official national mottos or icongraphy. Therefore I have no issue with a state dictating that their state funded schools must display official national mottos or icongraphy.

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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who owns and operates the school? The government?
    The locally elected school board, who are responsible to the people who elected them.
    Not the state.

    anyway, it's not supposed to be the state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The locally elected school board, who are responsible to the people who elected them.
    Not the state.

    anyway, it's not supposed to be the state.
    The school boards answer to the state.
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    The US could conceivable survive such an ignorant faith based move if 'In god we trust' isn't taken literally. It's very unlikely it would be even in the most conservative states.

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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The school boards answer to the state.
    Yes, and the feds, which is something that needs to be changed. They need to answer to the voters who elected them, just like any other elected official.
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    What I don't get about the religious right is that they always want to promote weird un-Christian doctrines, like posting the 10 Commandments in courtrooms, when the whole point of Christianity is that it doesn't follow the Law -- weird).

    So it is with "In God We Trust". It's not even Christian concept, except in the derivative sense that Peter and Paul said to accept one's suffering for the gospel, trusting that God will reward us spiritually (somehow I don't think the Pennsylvanian legislators had that in mind).

    If you want to use a Christian motto, how about "Love your neighbor" or "Give to the poor". That's what Jesus taught, and (predictably) it's not what the Christian Right wants to promote.

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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    What I don't get about the religious right is that they always want to promote weird un-Christian doctrines, like posting the 10 Commandments in courtrooms, when the whole point of Christianity is that it doesn't follow the Law -- weird).

    So it is with "In God We Trust". It's not even Christian concept, except in the derivative sense that Peter and Paul said to accept one's suffering for the gospel, trusting that God will reward us spiritually (somehow I don't think the Pennsylvanian legislators had that in mind).

    If you want to use a Christian motto, how about "Love your neighbor" or "Give to the poor". That's what Jesus taught, and (predictably) it's not what the Christian Right wants to promote.
    "Love thy neighbor"? Lol!
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    What I don't get about the religious right is that they always want to promote weird un-Christian doctrines, like posting the 10 Commandments in courtrooms, when the whole point of Christianity is that it doesn't follow the Law -- weird).

    So it is with "In God We Trust". It's not even Christian concept, except in the derivative sense that Peter and Paul said to accept one's suffering for the gospel, trusting that God will reward us spiritually (somehow I don't think the Pennsylvanian legislators had that in mind).

    If you want to use a Christian motto, how about "Love your neighbor" or "Give to the poor". That's what Jesus taught, and (predictably) it's not what the Christian Right wants to promote.
    So far as I know, "in god we trust" is the only somewhat religious statement which is an official national motto - so they have various things to hide behind if people complain.
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    Re: Pa. House gets bill to post 'In God We Trust' in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    What I don't get about the religious right is that they always want to promote weird un-Christian doctrines, like posting the 10 Commandments in courtrooms, when the whole point of Christianity is that it doesn't follow the Law -- weird).

    So it is with "In God We Trust". It's not even Christian concept, except in the derivative sense that Peter and Paul said to accept one's suffering for the gospel, trusting that God will reward us spiritually (somehow I don't think the Pennsylvanian legislators had that in mind).

    If you want to use a Christian motto, how about "Love your neighbor" or "Give to the poor". That's what Jesus taught, and (predictably) it's not what the Christian Right wants to promote.
    How about "Take all that thou hast, give unto the poor, and come, follow me". Now, there's a motto that practically no one can get behind.
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