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    Re: NYT: Health Care Law Fails to Lower Prices for Rural Areas

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    Rural areas have always been more expensive to insure because of they are smaller risk pool and they have a higher rate of obesity and diabetes.
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    Re: NYT: Health Care Law Fails to Lower Prices for Rural Areas

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    What were the rates in rural areas before ACA? The article didn't say. Nor did it mention that many of the Republican governors of those rural states refused to expand Medicaid and set up an exchange. There probably wouldn't be such a disparity in rates if it were single payer UHC.
    Our governor participated and our rates increased 30% a while coverages were reduced and out of pocket increased dramatically

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    Re: NYT: Health Care Law Fails to Lower Prices for Rural Areas

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    Of course he doesn't want it. Moochers never want to pay their share either
    Moochers are part of the population. When you make decisions you have to figure them in as part of the equation. The option is to live in fairy tale land. Living in fairy tale land is a good strategy for feeling good but a terrible way for finding solutions and solving problems.

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    Re: NYT: Health Care Law Fails to Lower Prices for Rural Areas

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    Moochers are part of the population. When you make decisions you have to figure them in as part of the equation. The option is to live in fairy tale land. Living in fairy tale land is a good strategy for feeling good but a terrible way for finding solutions and solving problems.

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    The premiums the moochers will be paying, and the cost for ER health care they won't be dumping on non-moochers like me, have been figured into the equation

    Now the moochers won't be able to continue living in the fairy tale land where they think they can dump their expenses on the rest of us
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: NYT: Health Care Law Fails to Lower Prices for Rural Areas

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Now the moochers won't be able to continue living in the fairy tale land where they think they can dump their expenses on the rest of us
    Will the moochers die once the government quits giving them handouts? Eventually everybody will catch on to how good the moocher life is and will lower their income to gain access to the good life. It always happens in socialism. The system always grows and grows until it can no longer contain itself.

    You can always get a good high paying government job and pretend you aren't bumming off the government. Lots of "conservatives" like to do that. It is more dignified than food stamps but serves the same purpose of advancing socialism.

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    Re: NYT: Health Care Law Fails to Lower Prices for Rural Areas

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Will the moochers die once the government quits giving them handouts? Eventually everybody will catch on to how good the moocher life is and will lower their income to gain access to the good life. It always happens in socialism. The system always grows and grows until it can no longer contain itself.

    You can always get a good high paying government job and pretend you aren't bumming off the government. Lots of "conservatives" like to do that. It is more dignified than food stamps but serves the same purpose of advancing socialism.

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    You seem to be under the delusion that the poor live a rich life.

    The moochers are the ones who can afford health insurance but don't buy it.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: NYT: Health Care Law Fails to Lower Prices for Rural Areas

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You seem to be under the delusion that the poor live a rich life.

    The moochers are the ones who can afford health insurance but don't buy it.
    Wait, are you implying that if you can afford insurance and choose not to, you are somehow a bad person?
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    Re: NYT: Health Care Law Fails to Lower Prices for Rural Areas

    This doesn't surprise me. Rural health is a problem throughout the country. It's not just limited to NY.

    So, it doesn't surprise me in the least to find that the cost of health care in rural areas is still high. The cause is simple: low access to doctors and health care facilities. This is why the PPACA has provisions in it in an attempt to address the issues surrounding rural health.
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    Re: NYT: Health Care Law Fails to Lower Prices for Rural Areas

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You seem to be under the delusion that the poor live a rich life.

    The moochers are the ones who can afford health insurance but don't buy it.
    Minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. That equates to $15,080 per year if you work full time. Some people only work 25 hours a week because the boss doesn't want to have too many full time employees. That equates to $9,425 per year. I just bought an insurance policy for my wife and I. It costed $547 before government subsidies. My mortgage is $490.92. If someone earned $725 per month, their rent was $490.92 and their insurance was $547 they would have to put $312.92 on the credit card to survive and that's before they have eaten anything. If the person has bad credit this isn't even a possibilty. Yes, people in America live like this in 2013. Maybe not in 2007, maybe not in 2008, maybe not in 2009 but yes lots of people live this way. LOTS!

    Wake up to reality. Not everybody fills out an application and gets a job making as much money as you. It just doesn't happen. Welcome to 2013.

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    Re: NYT: Health Care Law Fails to Lower Prices for Rural Areas

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Wait, are you implying that if you can afford insurance and choose not to, you are somehow a bad person?
    Health Insurance is the #1 religion in the United States. Let me translate your words into a different format.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Wait, are you implying that if you know about the blood of Jesus that was shed on the cross for your sins and choose not to accept it,then you are somehow going to hell?
    See, it's the same thing.

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