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    Re: GOP Rift Extends to Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Obama and the Dems had a two year anything goes run. They didn't find it important then when they could have got it passed on their own. Instead they focused on destroying the job market and heath care in America.

    Maybe some of the Latinos will remember that as well.
    Don't get your hopes up. This is like Romney hoping all the polls were wrong.

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    Re: GOP Rift Extends to Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    It was once said that what makes America different is we are a nation of laws. Not any more.
    It starts at the top, and goes downhill, reaching all levels of society, including many of our courts. Look at the problems many States are facing because of it. When they try to follow the laws that are on the books, they are sued by the very officials who are charged with upholding the law! You want to discuss craziness?

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    Re: GOP Rift Extends to Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/26/us...nted=1&_r=0&hp



    My issue with this political debate is not that some Republicans are dead set against reforming immigration. My problem is the argument from the side that does want to, for political reasons, but also for political reasons do not want to do it until 2015 right before the presidential campaign. What would an immigrant family who has been waiting years to have their status recognized think if they found out it could have been done 2 years earlier but was delayed so that the Republicans could have a better image right before an election?

    The transparency of the political calculation on this issue has been sickening to me. On one hand, it's good to support a good cause, no matter what your reason is. On the other hand, you should do what is right because its right, and if you get rewarded then that's a plus, but doing something right just for the reward without caring about what it was you did is kind of upsetting.
    Your talking illegal immigrant families, how about all the legal immigrants waiting for their status recognized. We have immigration laws in this country, those laws do not permit illegals to get favored status. I would suggest you look at all the legal people trying to enter this country legally and trying to get status. After you go through that drill then talk to me about the illegals that ran our fence to get in this country illegally.

    Of course all that makes no difference if you want an open border, which I suspect you do.
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    Re: GOP Rift Extends to Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    It starts at the top, and goes downhill, reaching all levels of society, including many of our courts. Look at the problems many States are facing because of it. When they try to follow the laws that are on the books, they are sued by the very officials who are charged with upholding the law! You want to discuss craziness?
    Then too there are those who pick and choose which laws to enforce and which ones not too. Don't like a law, just don't enforce it.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: GOP Rift Extends to Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Though mexican immigrants get the lion share of the attention, the laws being proposed address immigration from all sources.
    Sure. The lines out of certain places in Asia is just as long as the line from Mexico.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I suppose the work visa and student visa holes need plugging, don't they? Yeah, you're right.
    I don't know that there is a student hole that needs plugging. I think there is a religious/clergy hole that needs plugging though. That is how a lot of Middle Easterners get their foot in the door when they otherwise couldn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    My problem with this is the unfairness to those who have applied for, and are following the law regarding citizenship, and what they must be thinking about how illegals are being given preference, simply because it's become a political decision. It must seem that we reward lawbreakers, which doesn't say a lot about this country to outsiders looking at what's going on in America! :
    That and the quota system has some serious racial undertones. If you are from one of the mostly white places in the world, pack your bags and buy your ticket. If you are from one of the mostly black or brown places in the world, bless your heart for wanting to visit us, but the inn is full for the next 10 years.

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    Re: GOP Rift Extends to Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why does immigration need reform?
    The Democrats need to import more votes.
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    Re: GOP Rift Extends to Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Sure. The lines out of certain places in Asia is just as long as the line from Mexico.
    Sure they are, just open the border and let all the illegals in. There will be lines from all around the world.

    That and the quota system has some serious racial undertones. If you are from one of the mostly white places in the world, pack your bags and buy your ticket. If you are from one of the mostly black or brown places in the world, bless your heart for wanting to visit us, but the inn is full for the next 10 years.
    Translated, if you are white you have to buy your way in, if your are brown or black you can run the fence at no cost, which 20 million illegals have done. Talk about the Inns being full, they are all full of fence running illegals. Not paying white people.
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    Re: GOP Rift Extends to Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Democrats need to import more votes.
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