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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The policies that are being cancelled were junk policies to begin with, that would pay no more than a few hundred bucks worth of expenses. Consumer Reports picks apart and completely debunks the claim. Nothing like paying money each month for what can essentially be considered no insurance at all. LOL.
    While I'm sure there ARE policies out there that are junk ours (I/wife) were quite comprehensive and are being cancelled. BCBS stated our cancellation was based on these polices specifically not having maternity/newborn/pediatric vision/dental...at 61/57 I see no need for us to have those provisions. While our example is anecdotal (as MANY of the reported stories are-from both sides) I believe it quite presumptuous to claim that all policies cancelled are junk...as you infer.
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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    While I'm sure there ARE policies out there that are junk ours (I/wife) were quite comprehensive and are being cancelled. BCBS stated our cancellation was based on these polices specifically not having maternity/newborn/pediatric vision/dental...at 61/57 I see no need for us to have those provisions. While our example is anecdotal (as MANY of the reported stories are-from both sides) I believe it quite presumptuous to claim that all policies cancelled are junk...as you infer.

    But wait, in this very thread someone else is claiming that just because your policy has those things, you won't pay for them due to your age, and likely hood that you won't use those things...Which I think is utterly ridiculous to claim, but none the less, this whole thing is long taken a turn to the absurd when defending it.
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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But wait, in this very thread someone else is claiming that just because your policy has those things, you won't pay for them due to your age, and likely hood that you won't use those things...Which I think is utterly ridiculous to claim, but none the less, this whole thing is long taken a turn to the absurd when defending it.
    Yeah, I saw that but cannot understand it. The premium price is based on the benefits (ALL benefits) included in the policy. If you use them or not you still pay for them...? What am I missing?
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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The over arching argument in '09 for Obama and demo's was that people would overwhelmingly embrace this and flock to sign up. That it would offer so much good, and save people some $2500. per year average, (also a lie) and when asked what of people that still refuse to sign up, he called the tax a penalty. In fact he had interviews with ABC, and NBC arguing that the 'penalty' was NOT a tax, because he was getting hit with the charge that he was with that raising taxes on the poor, and middle class. In fact, he, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of that that had to 'read the bill, to find our what is in the bill', all vehemently argued, and often demonized anyone that claimed it was a tax, accusing people of lying, making things up, even pulling the now overused race card of course.

    But, funny thing happened while in the SCOTUS. They argued that it WAS a tax, to defeat the law suit, and under that narrow definition, the court agreed. What was stunning to me anyway, was that almost moments after the ruling, demo's on the news once again began confusing the American people claim not only that it wasn't a tax, but even being as bold as to say that they never argued it was....

    Bottom line, they have been lying about this since its conception, and continue to lie.
    Maybe its a penalty and a tax. I could care less. What I care about is that the health ins. death panels can't deny coverage to people who had a pre-existing condition and were covered in their employers group plan, they got laid off, had to go get an individual policy and were rejected by the health ins. company because of the pre-existing. That, and the policy recision if you got really sick. That is what was really wrong and had to get fixed.

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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    You know, it's also interesting to me how republicans suddenly are grieving for people not having health care.

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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by finebead View Post
    Maybe its a penalty and a tax. I could care less. What I care about is that the health ins. death panels can't deny coverage to people who had a pre-existing condition and were covered in their employers group plan, they got laid off, had to go get an individual policy and were rejected by the health ins. company because of the pre-existing. That, and the policy recision if you got really sick. That is what was really wrong and had to get fixed.
    Why do you support government death panels? The government grim reapers that have/will force millions of people to lose their insurance and make it unaffordable for many get your blessing? And the IPAB and Sec of Health and Human Services are lurking just out of sight waiting on the time they can spring into action and deny heath care for any reason they choose to millions and you support them?

    Besides, your above statement is nonsense. Pre-existing conditions were dealt with on a state by state basis so people could get coverage and any one that had heath insurance and got laid off had access to health insurance.
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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Yeah, I saw that but cannot understand it. The premium price is based on the benefits (ALL benefits) included in the policy. If you use them or not you still pay for them...? What am I missing?
    Yeah, of course you pay for them...The argument that the other poster was trying to make to me is utterly without any merit in fact. I asked my insurance agent, (a friend of the family) about this, and he just started laughing, and said you pay for everything listed in the benefits offered section.

    Quote Originally Posted by finebead
    Maybe its a penalty and a tax. I could care less.
    Really? Because you came in here at me, saying that Obama and the demo's were able to do this under the "General Welfare" words in the pre amble to the constitution, and when I reminded you of Article 1 Section 8, and asked you to find in there where they were able to force people to buy a private product, you came back and said this:

    I don't recall Obama stating how it would be paid for, just that it would be paid for and not add to the deficit.
    And you cited the ability of the federal government to lay and collect taxes. Which is in there, and it is how the SCOTUS came to its position on that part of the law. However, Obama, and demo's lied, and continued to lie immediately after the ruling, going back and immediately saying that it wasn't a tax. Now, you come in and say you couldn't care less? Why did you even post to begin with then?

    Then you all of the sudden come in and say you couldn't care less? Give me a break.
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    I was just thinking that. For a while there the Repubs really hated "them" people that got free healthcare, now they are defending their right to it.
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    You know, it's also interesting to me how republicans suddenly are grieving for people not having health care.
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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I was just thinking that. For a while there the Repubs really hated "them" people that got free healthcare, now they are defending their right to it.
    Where in the world do you come up with that conclusion? I think there may be a comprehension problem going on here...

    Please provide the quotes that bring you to that conclusion, along with an explanation as to your thinking process that brings you to that conclusion.
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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    The Republicans dont want Americans to "have" to buy insurance that covers healthcare. So simple I dont think I need to supply quotes.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Where in the world do you come up with that conclusion? I think there may be a comprehension problem going on here...

    Please provide the quotes that bring you to that conclusion, along with an explanation as to your thinking process that brings you to that conclusion.
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