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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    of course moving everyone to single payer will cost more initially, but there will be savings in other areas, as one entity covering all basic care has a lot of power to force down prices. for example, you guys pay a lot less for prescriptions than we do.
    Only in some cases, but not in all cases. Generics are far cheaper in the US.

    I think people downplay the effect of having the US economy as the early adopters for medical technology, but if we went UHC we would cease to play that role.

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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post

    Yes, he covered that in the clip....Doesn't change the fact that their system is going bankrupt.
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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Wisconson weighing in....

    "Health-care premiums in Wisconsin will almost double under Obamacare, compared with their current rates, according to a report from the MacIver Institute.

    The state’s free-market think tank figured the average premiums of the insurance plans the Obamacare exchange offers for several categories of Wisconsinites: 27-year-olds, 50-year-olds, and a family of four from data found on a federal database. The institute then compared those rates with the average premiums on the private market, using figures from eHealthInsurance.com.

    MacIver found that rates will jump significantly, especially for the young: A 27-year-old will see premiums more than double in one county in 2014, and see his rates go up by 93.6 percent in Madison, 91.2 percent in Milwaukee, and 72.6 percent in Eau Claire.

    Fifty-year-olds will be paying more overall, too, but their premiums won’t go up quite as much, jumping by about half. Families will see their premiums rise at similar rates to young people: A family of four will see a spike of 97.2 percent in Brown County, and increases of just below 90 percent in Milwaukee and Dane counties."

    Think Tank: Health-Insurance Premiums Will Almost Double in Wisconsin | National Review Online

    Wow, this is going to be epic!
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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I'm convinced it's by design that this entire cluster**** happened. Ultimately, give the middle class no choice but to adopt a single payer government plan and put the insurance industry out of business.

    But those folks in Congress will be exempt and get an aristocratic plan of their own.
    Yeah, like Cruz, who gets his health insurance from Goldman Sachs.

    Ted Cruz gets his health care plan from Goldman Sachs | MSNBC

    Since single payer has some of the best health outcomes in the world, certainly better than our for-profit system, I'll take single payer any day -- especially to stop paying my provider inflated rates that rise about 15% a year for inferior and unintelligible coverage.

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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    From the article: The insurance company told Channel 4 the coverage is being cut because of the Affordable Care Act. The Affordable Care Act requires policies sold in the individual market to cover 10 "essential" benefits like maternity care, mental health treatment and prescription drugs."
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It would be interesting to know how many of these "cheap" policies that no longer meet Obamacare standards are lacking because they don't cover things such as contraceptives, morning after pills, and abortions, etc. Obama and the administration "claimed" that insurers would be providing these "free of charge" as a "claim" that these requirements do not/did not impact religious institutions that provided their employees healthcare insurance coverage. Any person with even half a brain, liberals excepted, would understand that no business provides any service free of charge, particularly one that is ongoing and virtually constant for the duration of most female's lives. As a result, it wouldn't surprise me if these insurers are telling their clients in a round about way that they cannot provide them with increased coverage at the rates they were paying previously, and therefore they are cancelling their coverage.
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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    A lot of these policies were cheap, but they didn't have full coverage, and that's one of the things decided in the law, is that policies had to meet minimum, essential benefits,” said McClanahan.
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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Yeah, like Cruz, who gets his health insurance from Goldman Sachs.

    Ted Cruz gets his health care plan from Goldman Sachs | MSNBC

    Since single payer has some of the best health outcomes in the world, certainly better than our for-profit system, I'll take single payer any day -- especially to stop paying my provider inflated rates that rise about 15% a year for inferior and unintelligible coverage.
    Wow, you progressives are really devious in your language...Ted Cruz is covered under his wifes plan...So?

    Single payer coverage overall is worse than a free market anyday. The fact that your lies are designed to further propaganda is just more proof that progressivism needs to crawl back under that rock.
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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    A lot of these policies were cheap, but they didn't have full coverage, and that's one of the things decided in the law, is that policies had to meet minimum, essential benefits,” said McClanahan.
    Yes that is what the article said...So just to be clear, you are just fine with Government telling you what coverage you need to be mandated to have, and what you must carry.
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    I think all Americans should have adequate healthcare. I think we should have a UHC system and hope ACA is a step along the way.
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    Re: Florida Blue cutting 300K policies

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, he covered that in the clip....Doesn't change the fact that their system is going bankrupt.
    But spending less hurts us?

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