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    re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Waiting for your justification since you claimed it.
    The woman detained had used someone else's script to self-medicate off of percs that she was addicted to.

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    re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I think you are mistaken here, because I do believe someone who has been deemed "possibly" unstable is given someone automatically to defend them in some cases.
    It is a matter of finances when it goes to trial. At the arraignment you can easily get the public defender to speak on your behalf, but when it requires they actually go through a trial they check to make sure you are actually poor before they let you have a public defender.

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    re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The woman detained had used someone else's script to self-medicate off of percs that she was addicted to.
    So you think because she used someone elses meds she should be required to carry to term a baby?

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    re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    It is a matter of finances when it goes to trial. At the arraignment you can easily get the public defender to speak on your behalf, but when it requires they actually go through a trial they check to make sure you are actually poor before they let you have a public defender.
    If someone goes to trial for a murder are you seriously saying if they can pay and don't get a lawyer they just sit there in trial without one? I don't think so. ( I will error and say if I am wrong I haven't seen one personally)

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    re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So you think because she used someone elses meds she should be required to carry to term a baby?
    No, I believe that someone who is using someone else's (an "acquaintance's") script to self medicate is breaking the law and possibly endangering the life of the fetus. The women does not appear to intend to have an abortion.

    Did you read the article?

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    re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No, I believe that someone who is using someone else's (an "acquaintance's") script to self medicate is breaking the law and possibly endangering the life of the fetus. The women does not appear to intend to have an abortion.

    Did you read the article?
    I'm sorry let me rephrase. It's the woman's choice. She shouldn't have rights removed from her regardless.

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    re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm sorry let me rephrase. It's the woman's choice. She shouldn't have rights removed from her regardless.
    It's the woman's choice to use other people's scripts without consulting a doctor? Sure. And it's breaking the law and perhaps endangering the life/health of the fetus that she intends to carry to birth.

    No one is forcing her to carry. The concern is her use of someone else's script and refusal to heed her doctor's advice.

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    re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    I don't understand this never-ending feud to begin with. If the fetus has a soul, well to the religious it's with god now, so who cares? To anyone else, it keeps population less catastrophically out of control.

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    re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's the woman's choice to use other people's scripts without consulting a doctor? Sure. And it's breaking the law and perhaps endangering the life/health of the fetus that she intends to carry to birth.
    Yes, the woman should be charged with using a script unauthorized, not with anything else. She should receive the same punishment as anyone else abusing a script. Nothing else.

    Let me ask you, if you think the woman should be charged, do you think the father should be charged to, because after all where was he?

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    re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If someone goes to trial for a murder are you seriously saying if they can pay and don't get a lawyer they just sit there in trial without one? I don't think so. ( I will error and say if I am wrong I haven't seen one personally)
    Yes, this has and will continue to happen. In wisconsin, i think it's $3000 salary means you "can afford an attorney." Well good luck finding one to take a murder trial with say $4000. In this case, they have to defend themselves. The system is that ****ed.

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