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    Re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypersonic View Post
    What disturbs me is the mother had no lawyer but the fetus did.
    Sounds like you are purposely finding reason to be disturbed.
    She would have eventually been afforded the opportunity.
    This was just the beginning where she didn't have one. It is normal.
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    Re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    So is an unborn child. Doesn't mean it has rights.
    If a born child has no rights, do you believe that animals should be treated with absolute disregard as well?

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    Re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If a born child has no rights, do you believe that animals should be treated with absolute disregard as well?
    I don't believe anything should be treated with absolute disregard.

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    Re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I don't believe anything should be treated with absolute disregard.
    Then why deny rights?

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    Re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Sounds like you are purposely finding reason to be disturbed.
    She would have eventually been afforded the opportunity.
    This was just the beginning where she didn't have one. It is normal.
    Every post to me you'll get this since you're so special
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    Re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypersonic View Post
    Every post to me you'll get this since you're so special
    [video=youtube;I84ORrbTouQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I84ORrbTouQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video
    If you want to engage in what some would call troll like activities, be my guest.
    As you were the one seeing things through special lenses, it apparently only applies to you.

    You being disturbed is nonsense.
    She would have been afforded such at the appropriate time in the process.

    Or in other words, you are taking issue with something that really isn't an issue.



    Btw, I love that vid. I believe I have been infracted for using it just like you are.
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    Re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    I'm late to the party, but I just have to chime in on this one.

    Talk about "government intruding on your life and your liberty!" If this case doesn't convey what Republicans have been fearful of concerning "government over-reach", I don't know what does! ObamaCare doesn't even come close to intruding on "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" the way this case clearly does!

    Let me be clear: A fetus is NOT a human being any more than a corporation is a person. A fetus IS a human life-form developing in the womb and nothing more. Until it is capable of sustaining life on its own outside the womb, it is NOT human. It is as science classifies it: a fetus.

    Genesis 2:6 "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
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    Re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    You would think that, but you've established on multiple occasions that you don't understand how enslaving women to the interests of fetuses could possibly violate their rights.
    A parent is not enslaved to their offspring if the law doesn't allow them to kill their kids. Try again.

    It is when one of them is growing entirely within the other and is solely dependent on the other's metabolism to provide nutrients.
    Kids are dependent on their parents for resources. If you don't want to have to provide for them, don't make them.

    The only way for an unborn person to have rights is to force another person-- one specific person-- to provide for those rights at their own expense.
    Doesn't even make sense. You don't have to provide much of anything to support the basic human rights of your offspring.

    There's a word for people who believe that you can have a right to someone else's body.
    Yeah, "pro-aborts." Also, their ideological cousins, advocates of slavery.


    Neither ingesting whatever chemicals one chooses nor removing unwanted organisms from one's own person is aggression.
    Poisoning your kids is aggression against them. Killing your kids is aggression against them.

    Locking women up for doing these things is.
    Locking up aggressive savages is not aggression.

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    Re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    1.)A parent is not enslaved to their offspring if the law doesn't allow them to kill their kids. Try again.
    2.)Kids are dependent on their parents for resources. If you don't want to have to provide for them, don't make them.
    3.)Doesn't even make sense. You don't have to provide much of anything to support the basic human rights of your offspring.
    4.) Yeah, "pro-aborts." Also, their ideological cousins, advocates of slavery.
    5.)Poisoning your kids is aggression against them. Killing your kids is aggression against them.



    Locking up aggressive savages is not aggression.
    1.) on the topic of abortion yoru statement is 100% false as proven many times, at this point posting such dishonesty and even tryin to sell such a lie is pure comedy
    2.) exactly what abortion does besides protecting rights both legal and human
    3.) facts dont have to make sense to you. If you disagree by all means please provide any facts that support you
    4.) LMAO slavery is always a failed argument because its a failed analogy that has been destroyed over and over again. THe best part is while its an appeal to emotion. LOGICALLY and FACTUALLY, slavery has omore in common with BANNING abortion than allowing it ever will.
    5.) good thing the lady in the OP factually did not do that, if she did then she deserves punished
    6.) good thing thats not happening either

    forcing a women to risk her life and health against her will is aggression and its one you support 100% because you view the woman as a lesser.
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    Re: Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law - U.S. News

    This is the logical conclusion of the misguided belief that fetuses have rights. It is impossible to give rights to a being growing inside a person's body without violating that person's rights.
    What kind of being is growing in her body? A human being maybe?
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