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    Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    U.S. Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia broke ranks with fellow Democrats and said he’d support a stopgap spending plan that delays the individual mandate in President Barack Obama’s health-care law.

    “There’s no way I could not vote for it,” Manchin said at a Bloomberg Government breakfast today. “It’s very reasonable and sensible.”



    Manchin, 66, said he’d be willing to delay the individual mandate as part of the budget negotiations because the Obama administration in July gave businesses an extra year to provide their workers with health insurance.

    “Don’t put the mandate on the American public right now,” he said. “If you know you couldn’t bring the corporate sector, you gave them a year, don’t you think it’d be fair?”

    Manchin also said he’d be willing to negotiate in a debate over raising the nation’s $16.7 trillion debt limit. He said he’d support “efficiencies” in Medicare and Social Security and using most of the savings for debt reduction.....snip~

    Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay - Bloomberg

    Uh oh.....it has begun. Democrats are coming out and wanting the Mandate delayed for the Middle Class and the Poor. Not just for the Corporate boys and Unions. Obamacare is facing all sorts of problems and now listen to the Democrats shift.

    Well lets work together to take out whats bad and make it better. Are they getting ready to make more excuses for the American people or what?

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Mancin is also who Bloomberg wants to run out of office since he backs gun legislation as well. So we may be seeing the End of Mancin come 2016.

    Which I don't know if the Left counted him to make the return.

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Mancin is seeking the good graces of the voters in West Virginia that have common sense. One of the problems he will have though, the same people he is courting now know he sat on the fence when the GOP was pushing for the same.
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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    U.S. Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia broke ranks with fellow Democrats and said he’d support a stopgap spending plan that delays the individual mandate in President Barack Obama’s health-care law.

    “There’s no way I could not vote for it,” Manchin said at a Bloomberg Government breakfast today. “It’s very reasonable and sensible.”



    Manchin, 66, said he’d be willing to delay the individual mandate as part of the budget negotiations because the Obama administration in July gave businesses an extra year to provide their workers with health insurance.

    “Don’t put the mandate on the American public right now,” he said. “If you know you couldn’t bring the corporate sector, you gave them a year, don’t you think it’d be fair?”

    Manchin also said he’d be willing to negotiate in a debate over raising the nation’s $16.7 trillion debt limit. He said he’d support “efficiencies” in Medicare and Social Security and using most of the savings for debt reduction.....snip~

    Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay - Bloomberg

    Uh oh.....it has begun. Democrats are coming out and wanting the Mandate delayed for the Middle Class and the Poor. Not just for the Corporate boys and Unions. Obamacare is facing all sorts of problems and now listen to the Democrats shift.

    Well lets work together to take out whats bad and make it better. Are they getting ready to make more excuses for the American people or what?
    Manchin is a very level headed guy who respects the people who elected him in the first place. In a way he reminds me of Sam Nunn when Georgia was sending Democratic Senators to Washington. West Virginians are very pro 2nd amendment also, to be otherwise for the senator would be like telling them to stick it where the sun don't shine. It is refreshing to hear of a senator that actually takes the people's wishes to heart from his state. After all, he was elected to represent the people of the state of West Virginia, not the Democratic Party.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mancin is also who Bloomberg wants to run out of office since he backs gun legislation as well. So we may be seeing the End of Mancin come 2016.

    Which I don't know if the Left counted him to make the return.
    Manchin just won re-election last year, he won't be going anywhere until at least 2019. He'll be 72 then, perhaps he might retire, then again maybe not since we know some senators stayed around in their 90's. Didn't Strom Thurman celebrate his 100th birthday as a senator?
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Manchin is a very level headed guy who respects the people who elected him in the first place. In a way he reminds me of Sam Nunn when Georgia was sending Democratic Senators to Washington. West Virginians are very pro 2nd amendment also, to be otherwise for the senator would be like telling them to stick it where the sun don't shine. It is refreshing to hear of a senator that actually takes the people's wishes to heart from his state. After all, he was elected to represent the people of the state of West Virginia, not the Democratic Party.
    Heya Pero. Well at least he is using some common sense.....and in pointing that out to Obama with being fair for all.

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Pero. Well at least he is using some common sense.....and in pointing that out to Obama with being fair for all.
    Howdy MMC, fairness rarely enters the political fray. Common sense neither. There are only a few senators who actually will put the people they represent ahead of their party. All the rest basically toe the party line or are forced to toe the party line.
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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Howdy MMC, fairness rarely enters the political fray. Common sense neither. There are only a few senators who actually will put the people they represent ahead of their party. All the rest basically toe the party line or are forced to toe the party line.
    Well, he knows Bloomberg is coming after his seat. So if they are Democrats there, he will be challenged.

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, he knows Bloomberg is coming after his seat. So if they are Democrats there, he will be challenged.
    West Virginia at the moment is just about as red as any red state can get. Manchin is a conservative democrat who just happened to win in a state where Democrats have no business winning. If Bloomberg wants his seat, I thought he was Mayor of NYC who hasn't much common sense to begin with IMO, he'll have to wait until the election in November of 2018 to challenge him.

    I do not think even Senator Reid will give Manchin a hard time, Reid is a smart politician and party loyalest. He knows Machin means one vote for his continued senate leadership position and it is better to have a Manchin coming from West Virginia who will vote with the Democrats 70% of the time than a Republican coming from West Virginia who will always vote against the Democrats 100% of the time. This fact is something the Republican Party has lost track of. In choosing their senate candidate, in a few states none of the GOP party members have really given winning in the general election enough thought. Look at Indiana and Missouri last year, to a lesser extent North Dakota and Montana.
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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    West Virginia at the moment is just about as red as any red state can get. Manchin is a conservative democrat who just happened to win in a state where Democrats have no business winning. If Bloomberg wants his seat, I thought he was Mayor of NYC who hasn't much common sense to begin with IMO, he'll have to wait until the election in November of 2018 to challenge him.

    I do not think even Senator Reid will give Manchin a hard time, Reid is a smart politician and party loyalest. He knows Machin means one vote for his continued senate leadership position and it is better to have a Manchin coming from West Virginia who will vote with the Democrats 70% of the time than a Republican coming from West Virginia who will always vote against the Democrats 100% of the time. This fact is something the Republican Party has lost track of. In choosing their senate candidate, in a few states none of the GOP party members have really given winning in the general election enough thought. Look at Indiana and Missouri last year, to a lesser extent North Dakota and Montana.
    Well Bloomberg isn't going to run against him.....one of his puppets will. Just Like In California and Illinois. Now they hold those seats despite not knowing much about those states politics. If it is Red.....then that problem might get solved anyways.

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