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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    See that little blue dot just to the right of center on the first chart in the link below? Thats Sen. Manchin...and he's the only blue dot that is to the right of center in the senate.......


    https://www.govtrack.us/about/analysis#ideology
    Mornin Moot. Looks like there are 10 Democrats that knows whats Right.....huh? .....

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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    They still exist. It very often requires the farmers to live on not much more than minimum wage level salaries unless they are large operations. We have several in my area that have adopted some interesting business models like turning ponds into fish farms; the subscribe to the box o'veg clubs; and the like.

    This particular farm literally is woods now. The GGP's moved out when they got old, it was sold to someone who used it as a retreat for awhile before it ended up in the hands of someone whom I was told timbered it at least once. Other than remnants of old foundations and an old well that my uncle knows where it is but I have no clue, there is nothing on it now but trees and some open spots along the water where floods have kept the trees back. I have zero interest in the place, but if having the old homestead my mom can remember as a little girl loving to visit back in the family makes her happy, I will hold onto it and hope that one day Bigfoot is spotted on the place discovering Gold or something so I can make the money back. Really one of my brothers wants it when he retires to build a home on, so I am going to bleed him dry when the time comes.
    I was born and raised on a farm, a little over a 100 acres with a bunch of woods. We did alright, we traded equipment with the neighbors, they would use or corn picker and we they hay bailer and so forth. But in the end my dad sold the farm and someone with a few thousand acres bought it. He had all this huge fancy equipment. We also had hogs so that helped.
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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    When are those checks due??
    Reagan and Co. opposed Medicare..
    How'd that work out for you guys ?
    Just over 5% of the people that opened an account in Kentucky applied for health insurance. 5%. But of those that did, those checks will be due more sooner than later and I'd be surprised if half of the 5% send them in. At this time I can't find the numbers of dead people that have applied for any type coverage in Kentucky so it's possible that some of the 5% is already dead. Maybe you found some numbers on the dead folks that have applied for coverage there but as yet, I can't find any.

    Speaking of Medicare, the taxes people pay for that program have gone up from 2.9% to as high as 7.6%. The better question to ask is how is that going to help somebody find a job in America and how does that work out for Americans.
    Lets hear your solutions to keeping that program afloat without raises taxes again or without rationing health care. And once again, how is that going to work out for Americans?
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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    GOP will cheer against ACA like they did Social Security and Medicaid..Besides Hillary, the SUCCESS of the ACA is the GOP's greatest fear..
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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I was born and raised on a farm, a little over a 100 acres with a bunch of woods. We did alright, we traded equipment with the neighbors, they would use or corn picker and we they hay bailer and so forth. But in the end my dad sold the farm and someone with a few thousand acres bought it. He had all this huge fancy equipment. We also had hogs so that helped.

    People in my area did awesome as farmers until Clinton started the path to kill tobacco. Hell you didn't even need to farm your land--you just needed to own land with an allotment and you'd do okay as you could sharecrop or rent out your allotment.

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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    They still exist. It very often requires the farmers to live on not much more than minimum wage level salaries unless they are large operations. We have several in my area that have adopted some interesting business models like turning ponds into fish farms; the subscribe to the box o'veg clubs; and the like.

    This particular farm literally is woods now. The GGP's moved out when they got old, it was sold to someone who used it as a retreat for awhile before it ended up in the hands of someone whom I was told timbered it at least once. Other than remnants of old foundations and an old well that my uncle knows where it is but I have no clue, there is nothing on it now but trees and some open spots along the water where floods have kept the trees back. I have zero interest in the place, but if having the old homestead my mom can remember as a little girl loving to visit back in the family makes her happy, I will hold onto it and hope that one day Bigfoot is spotted on the place discovering Gold or something so I can make the money back. Really one of my brothers wants it when he retires to build a home on, so I am going to bleed him dry when the time comes.
    : Good luck on both Bigfoot, and your brother!

    Greetings, Fisher.

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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : Good luck on both Bigfoot, and your brother!

    Greetings, Fisher.
    Salutations, Polgara. If there is a Big Foot, he is bound to live in the hills of WV

    To stray back on topic though,as for Manchin, the sad reality is that most people outside WV would not know who he is had it not been for the Sago Mine Disaster. I question whether or not he would have even won his seat had it not been for his spiritual/emotional leadership in that sad episode. Capito v. Tennant should be an interesting Senate race next year. Two mountain ladies slugging it out will be a thing to watch. I expect the GOP to pick up Rockefeller's seat in the end.

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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    People in my area did awesome as farmers until Clinton started the path to kill tobacco. Hell you didn't even need to farm your land--you just needed to own land with an allotment and you'd do okay as you could sharecrop or rent out your allotment.
    The federal government undercut a lot of family farms that way not to mention coal. Even in Eastern KY which is a lot like WV.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The federal government undercut a lot of family farms that way not to mention coal. Even in Eastern KY which is a lot like WV.
    It was really pointless symbolism since a lot of US grown tobacco is exported and US consumed tobacco is imported because Americans prefer lighter tobacco flavors and foreigners prefer heavier tobacco flavors.

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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    It was really pointless symbolism since a lot of US grown tobacco is exported and US consumed tobacco is imported because Americans prefer lighter tobacco flavors and foreigners prefer heavier tobacco flavors.
    Strange how that works. That brings up something else that very few people talk about and that is the trade deficit. We send a huge amount of money overseas creating a ton of jobs in foreign countries and helping their economy while doing just the opposite here. Not only should we be concentrating on how to handle the debt but also doing something about the trade deficit.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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