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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Repubs must have Kangaroo courts every week until the election to turn around the polls in their minds..

    We will have another shutdown and debt ceiling debacle..

    How long did it take for Social Security to be completely on line--about 7 years .
    We'll see, but from the when the law was first passed to today, the numbers have been roughly the same. 40% for 50% against. But one thing the Democrats have going is most Americans although opposed to the law have reluctantly have come to the conclusion it ain't going anywhere.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Repubs are terrified that citizens in states like Kentucky, that actually are signing up at a rate of 1,000 a day,
    that never had insurance, will vote BLUE..
    Helps to have a DEM. gov. who isn't spending millions to sabotage ACA..
    And he praised Repub gov. Kasich in Ohio for extending Medicaid, who now faces Repub lawsuits .
    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    We'll see, but from the when the law was first passed to today, the numbers have been roughly the same. 40% for 50% against. But one thing the Democrats have going is most Americans although opposed to the law have reluctantly have come to the conclusion it ain't going anywhere.
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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Repubs are terrified that citizens in states like Kentucky, that actually are signing up at a rate of 1,000 a day,
    that never had insurance, will vote BLUE..
    Helps to have a DEM. gov. who isn't spending millions to sabotage ACA..
    And he praised Repub gov. Kasich in Ohio for extending Medicaid, who now faces Repub lawsuits .
    How many of the new sign ups have sent checks to the insurance company for their coverage?
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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Repubs are terrified that citizens in states like Kentucky, that actually are signing up at a rate of 1,000 a day,
    that never had insurance, will vote BLUE..
    Helps to have a DEM. gov. who isn't spending millions to sabotage ACA..
    And he praised Repub gov. Kasich in Ohio for extending Medicaid, who now faces Repub lawsuits .
    I don't know Linc. I just can't get it out of my head the way it was passed. No matter if the ACA turned out to be the best thing that ever happened, I will remember the bribes, the so called LA purchase or cornhusker kickback. The extra arm twisting, the threats, the bribes to get it passed. I think this is why I dislike McCaskill too, 60% of Missourians said no, she voted yea and on and on. The threats of no campaign cash unless you vote yea, no one can ever say this bill passed on its merits regardless if you were for or against. Pelosi's ridiculous statement, you must pass it before you can read it or something there abouts.

    At that point I stopped caring about what was in it, whether it was good or bad. In fact I refused to read it. Stalin would have been proud of the strong arm tactic used. So I became a poll watcher and more interested in whether the ACA would effect elections results. the fact the democrats feel they could get a bill passed over the objections of 55% of the people when only about 35% were for it, I suppose they feel very proud about that. McCaskill, Nelson, Landreiu, Pryor and a few more all represented states where 60% of the people of their state were telling them no. But as I have stated, they told the people who voted for them, who elected them to stick it where the sun don't shine.

    As a result of not listening to the people 2010 happened. Then came the reluctant acceptance that the law ain't going away. 2012 was a status quo election. The republicans couldn't give the people enough reasons to change what they had. It is true I would rather continue on with Obama than Romney, but I could never vote for either. One business as usual candidate is as good as the next, so you might as well stick with the devil you have than the devil you don't know. But I did know and Romney I didn't trust.

    sorry about the rant.
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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Howdy MMC, fairness rarely enters the political fray. Common sense neither. There are only a few senators who actually will put the people they represent ahead of their party. All the rest basically toe the party line or are forced to toe the party line.
    I agree.

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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    How many of the new sign ups have sent checks to the insurance company for their coverage?
    When are those checks due??
    Reagan and Co. opposed Medicare..
    How'd that work out for you guys ?
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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't know Linc. I just can't get it out of my head the way it was passed. No matter if the ACA turned out to be the best thing that ever happened, I will remember the bribes, the so called LA purchase or cornhusker kickback. The extra arm twisting, the threats, the bribes to get it passed. I think this is why I dislike McCaskill too, 60% of Missourians said no, she voted yea and on and on. The threats of no campaign cash unless you vote yea, no one can ever say this bill passed on its merits regardless if you were for or against. Pelosi's ridiculous statement, you must pass it before you can read it or something there abouts.
    Do we really need to go back before 02/2009 and see all of the wonderful gifts of corrupt government and capitalism..
    I know, intel was so good we have 4,500 empty chairs around the dinner tables tonight in the USA..
    Democrats were accused of anti-Patriotism voting against a rushed-in Iraqi war..
    But Obama was not allowed to even bomb Syria due to rightist phony outrage .
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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Do we really need to go back before 02/2009 and see all of the wonderful gifts of corrupt government and capitalism..
    I know, intel was so good we have 4,500 empty chairs around the dinner tables tonight in the USA..
    Democrats were accused of anti-Patriotism voting against a rushed-in Iraqi war..
    But Obama was not allowed to even bomb Syria due to rightist phony outrage .
    I for one am glad we didn't bomb Syria. I thought the Iraq war was wrong too. But I favored Afghanistan.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    At that point I stopped caring about what was in it, whether it was good or bad. In fact I refused to read it.
    You have never not cared..
    You continue to care by discussing ACA..
    Stalin would have been proud of the strong arm tactic used.
    Stalin would have just murdered them..
    How many tens of millions dead??
    Stalinist comparisons from you??
    As a result of not listening to the people 2010 happened.
    You are ignoring 100% with this statement at Repub peril that disaffected Dem groups did not vote, mid-terms are always a loss for POTUS and TEArabble had formed by FOX..
    You also ignore negative Repub onslaught from day one of their idea .
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    Re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Obama did not have the same chance to bomb Syria as Bush/Cheney had to go to Iraq..
    Because of the way Bush/Cheney handled the Iraqi war..
    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I for one am glad we didn't bomb Syria. I thought the Iraq war was wrong too. But I favored Afghanistan.
    Wow--just heard the Sheldon Adelson tape, another Republican Billionaire donor .
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