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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Good morning MMC - I'm pretty sure this is old news - I believe Manchin made these comments or at least ones similar to them during the government shutdown and before congress passed their stopgap measure last week. He was roundly criticized by the Senate Democrat leadership and hidden away afterwards. Did he come out of hiding and say it again?
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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    U.S. Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia broke ranks with fellow Democrats and said he’d support a stopgap spending plan that delays the individual mandate in President Barack Obama’s health-care law.

    “There’s no way I could not vote for it,” Manchin said at a Bloomberg Government breakfast today. “It’s very reasonable and sensible.”



    Manchin, 66, said he’d be willing to delay the individual mandate as part of the budget negotiations because the Obama administration in July gave businesses an extra year to provide their workers with health insurance.

    “Don’t put the mandate on the American public right now,” he said. “If you know you couldn’t bring the corporate sector, you gave them a year, don’t you think it’d be fair?”

    Manchin also said he’d be willing to negotiate in a debate over raising the nation’s $16.7 trillion debt limit. He said he’d support “efficiencies” in Medicare and Social Security and using most of the savings for debt reduction.....snip~

    Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay - Bloomberg

    Uh oh.....it has begun. Democrats are coming out and wanting the Mandate delayed for the Middle Class and the Poor. Not just for the Corporate boys and Unions. Obamacare is facing all sorts of problems and now listen to the Democrats shift.

    Well lets work together to take out whats bad and make it better. Are they getting ready to make more excuses for the American people or what?
    Oh, you are confused. That is called trying to work for the people who vote for you, and it is also probably called winning an election rather than driving everyone but your radicals away. I know it is a strange concept for some people on the right, but being reasonable kinduv makes people like you more. Not a lot of people like the mouthy bossy assholes. You may not have noticed that little reality with sister sarah and brother cruz screaming in your ear.

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Oh, you are confused. That is called trying to work for the people who vote for you, and it is also probably called winning an election rather than driving everyone but your radicals away. I know it is a strange concept for some people on the right, but being reasonable kinduv makes people like you more. Not a lot of people like the mouthy bossy assholes. You may not have noticed that little reality with sister sarah and brother cruz screaming in your ear.
    Now, now, now, I'm sure you have lots of friends - don't sell yourself short.
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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good morning MMC - I'm pretty sure this is old news - I believe Manchin made these comments or at least ones similar to them during the government shutdown and before congress passed their stopgap measure last week. He was roundly criticized by the Senate Democrat leadership and hidden away afterwards. Did he come out of hiding and say it again?
    Yeah he did.....Oct 22nd this year, 2days ago. So it was after the display and the way he voted before.

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Oh, you are confused. That is called trying to work for the people who vote for you, and it is also probably called winning an election rather than driving everyone but your radicals away. I know it is a strange concept for some people on the right, but being reasonable kinduv makes people like you more. Not a lot of people like the mouthy bossy assholes. You may not have noticed that little reality with sister sarah and brother cruz screaming in your ear.
    Well, he does have it Right about giving all a fair shot and not just those Corporations, Unions and Pelosi people.....Right?

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well Bloomberg isn't going to run against him.....one of his puppets will. Just Like In California and Illinois. Now they hold those seats despite not knowing much about those states politics. If it is Red.....then that problem might get solved anyways.
    I wouldn't worry about it. I follow the senate quite closely especilly when we get close to an election. Manchin is safe and very popular. He listens to the people of West Virginia and the people of West Virginia love him for so doing. He is probably about the only Democrat that could win a statewide race there.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I wouldn't worry about it. I follow the senate quite closely especilly when we get close to an election. Manchin is safe and very popular. He listens to the people of West Virginia and the people of West Virginia love him for so doing. He is probably about the only Democrat that could win a statewide race there.
    Okay.....why doesn't that sound good like, to me.

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Okay.....why doesn't that sound good like, to me.
    Manchin isn't going anywhere. He is locked in until January of 2019 no matter what unless he dies or decides to retire early. I wouldn't worry about Bloomberg. Then there is the fact as I stated before, Reid doesn't want to lose him. Reid may not like him and Reid may want to hide him and run away from him, but Reid needs him and needs him to stay in the Democratic Party. The fact he votes in the best interest of West Virginia and her people may irritate the heck out of Reid, but he is a Democrat and he counts as one when it comes to his leadership position and Manchin can be relied upon around 70% of the time to vote with the Democrats as long as his vote doesn't go against the expressed withes of the people of West Virginia. He is a thorn in the side of Reid, but he would be the same thorn in the side of Republicans if he were to switch. He is no straight party line vote, to him he was sent to Washington to represent the people of west Virginia as a Democrat, not to represent the Democratic Party to the People of West Virginia.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, he does have it Right about giving all a fair shot and not just those Corporations, Unions and Pelosi people.....Right?
    By he you mean the imaginary obama sitting in the chair at the republican convention talking to clint eastwood, then yes of course.

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    re: Democrat Manchin Breaks Ranks to Back Mandate Delay..... [W:31]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    By he you mean the imaginary obama sitting in the chair at the republican convention talking to clint eastwood, then yes of course.
    No I meant Mancin.....as Obama hasn't backed off of anything I know of yet. Well he did move back the start date like 6 weeks. But I got that up in another thread.

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