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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    You've made it clear that your own display is showing that because of your hate for Obama you are condemning him for what is obviously taking the high road with Iran and Syria. He's prevented war so far at least.

    That's what the GOP wanted isn't it or is that what they didn't want or is that what they wanted?

    And not only that, because of your Obama hate you would gleefully be on the side of the Saudis in their blackmail attempts against the US! Do you really think grownups take you seriously?
    Every time you make a post, I'm less certain you will graduate 8th grade next June. Wipe your nose and run on back to class.
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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    I would not worry about it still. It is not official.
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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    To be honest the Saudi royals might be bad, but what they are keeping out is even worse. You dont want make the same mistake as the US did in Iraq do you now..
    Which mistake is that?
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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Which mistake is that?
    Yea.. which ones... lets see.

    Letting extremists into power in Iraq and letting Iran gain more power in the region for starters
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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yea.. which ones... lets see.

    Letting extremists into power in Iraq and letting Iran gain more power in the region for starters
    Extremist Shia's into power in Iraq thus gaining more power to Iran in the region. But what are the Saudi's holding and are thus the better of two evils with that?

    Sunni's are the majority in Saudi Arabia (if not 100%). So what are they within Saudi Arabia that say if you were to remove (technically impossible for they are 100%) you would have to deal with far worse people such as the Shia were in Iraq?

    What is the analogy of not making the mistake in Saudi Arabia just as it was in Iraq?
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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Oil will become increasingly irrelevant as industry shifts to natural gas, whose supply, due to frackng is exploding to an extent that the US will likely have enough cheap natural gas to last a century.

    The consequences will be disastrous for the Saudis, and they know it. So expect them to become an even more disruptive force in the Middle East in order to drive up oil prices. We should oppose them any way possible. They are not and never were our ally.
    Say it isn't so! Stop the Presses and Set the Breaking News. Someone be quicks like and contact Fox news and NBC. We Just got the Heart of the left agreeing with those on the Right......and over the Saudis too.

    That's the first time I ever heard you admit to doing what is Right.

    You did Get it Right.....they should be opposed and in All ways Possible. Let them start to experience some of that Systematic genocide and watch how fast they change their Chirpping and whining and getting up on that World Stage.
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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Extremist Shia's into power in Iraq thus gaining more power to Iran in the region. But what are the Saudi's holding and are thus the better of two evils with that?

    Sunni's are the majority in Saudi Arabia (if not 100%).
    Majority yes, 100% no. Guess where the Shia live in Saudi Arabia?.... let me give you a hint.. there be oil under their feet.

    So what are they within Saudi Arabia that say if you were to remove (technically impossible for they are 100%) you would have to deal with far worse people such as the Shia were in Iraq?
    The religious types in Saudi Arabia are bad.. really bad, and could make the Iranian mullahs look like boy scouts. The only thing keeping them in check is the Saudi Royal family, and the only thing that keeps them from declaring a holy war against Shia, Christians and Jews is.. the Saudi Royal family.

    What is the analogy of not making the mistake in Saudi Arabia just as it was in Iraq?
    The mistake in Iraq was to remove Saddam, who was keeping both religions in check.. yes he was a bastard and mass murderer, but in the end I would rather have him around than a massive religious war in the region that will spread across the planet. The mistake of removing the Saudi Royals is letting the crazy nutso religious branch of Sunni Islam go amok as a state, like what the Shia have done in Iran.

    This all boils down to the internal divisions in Islam, pure and simple. The west has a choice.. choose a side, or butt out and let the pieces fall where they may. I doubt that we will butt out..

    So the question boils down to.. who do you trust more, the Sunni's who gave us Bin Laden or the Shia who gave us the Mullahs in Tehran? Hard choice..
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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    They must laugh at the clowns that represent America these days. We might as well be running Stuart Smalley or Boy George out to the Middle East.
    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    More Obama administration incompetence on full display again. I think he is the first American president to find a way to get everybody else in the world mad at us. Most manage just to get a few.
    One of the reasons the Sauds are so pissed at us is because we've backed down from our threats to bomb Syria, where Saudi Arabia is funding insurgents to overthrow Assad and remove Iran's ally in the region.

    A move which Republicans opposed. I'm not saying we should have bombed Syria to keep the Saudis happy, far from it, but its impossible keep everyone happy in foreign relations so posting a link about another nation being upset about a decision we made in our own interests is hardly saying a President, any President, is incompetent thats just reality.

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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Majority yes, 100% no. Guess where the Shia live in Saudi Arabia?.... let me give you a hint.. there be oil under their feet.

    The religious types in Saudi Arabia are bad.. really bad, and could make the Iranian mullahs look like boy scouts. The only thing keeping them in check is the Saudi Royal family, and the only thing that keeps them from declaring a holy war against Shia, Christians and Jews is.. the Saudi Royal family.

    The mistake in Iraq was to remove Saddam, who was keeping both religions in check.. yes he was a bastard and mass murderer, but in the end I would rather have him around than a massive religious war in the region that will spread across the planet. The mistake of removing the Saudi Royals is letting the crazy nutso religious branch of Sunni Islam go amok as a state, like what the Shia have done in Iran.

    This all boils down to the internal divisions in Islam, pure and simple. The west has a choice.. choose a side, or butt out and let the pieces fall where they may. I doubt that we will butt out..

    So the question boils down to.. who do you trust more, the Sunni's who gave us Bin Laden or the Shia who gave us the Mullahs in Tehran? Hard choice..
    Thanks for clarifying your analogy. I get you now and agree for the most part.

    Still, Saddam had to go! Nothing gives a man the right to treat other people the way he did. Even if he did oppress the Shia religious in Iraq. You could venture (if you have such a thick skin) in Youtube and see what he did to his captives.

    As for the decision between the two, perhaps names could help. You have: a) Sunni's, and b) Shiite's
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