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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you are a administration too late to assess the blame for this circumstance
    iraq under saddam was dominated by the sunni sect
    the same sect in control of the house of saud
    so, when we displaced saddam and the shia came into power, iraq was no longer in saudi arabia's orbit
    instead, with the shia dominated government in iraq, it's now more inclined toward alliance with the shia dominated iranian government
    you want to blame Obama but it was the shrub (more accurately, cheney) who changed the ME alliances out of saudi arabia's favor
    again, Obama has yet another problem to clean up from the prior regime
    But...Bush!!! Bush ! Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuush!!!!

    Its not ABOUT Bush. Its about THIS president...the guy that has been in power for the last 5 years...and his complete failure in foreign policy, especially w/ regard to Syria.

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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    So what should Kerry do? Bomb/land troops in Syria or throw away and opportunity to de escalate against the Iranians? Who wants an ally that requires either of those stipulations? The Saudi's are just Middle Eastern oil barron's that are use to the US doing their bidding.
    yes.
    There isn't any real reson to keep the cold war (s.i.c.) going againast Iran; we don't have to have an alliance, but there is no reson for detante'

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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Whenever Saudi Arabia is most aggrieved that is usually when despite its rhetoric it tries its hardest to hew closer to the United States. For example, I predict that the Kingdom will take its UNSC seat within the next 2-3 months once the media shock value of this pronouncement has died down. Why? This was only ever meant to be a message to the United States, to encourage Washington to pay closer attention to what is emanating from Riyadh. It has already won them some meetings, calls, and scheduled visits.

    But shifting from the US? Please. There is no plausible alternative for Saudi Arabia. There is no substitute for the US security guarantee and the enormous military, political, and commercial (beyond oil & gas) that go with it. China is not going to open up military facilities in the Gulf, nor will Russia, and neither of them would be credible allies. The burgeoning relationship with China will continue but its military dimensions will remain on the far periphery.

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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    But...Bush!!! Bush ! Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuush!!!!

    Its not ABOUT Bush. Its about THIS president...the guy that has been in power for the last 5 years...and his complete failure in foreign policy, especially w/ regard to Syria.
    Obama did not create this situation
    dicknbush did
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Obama did not create this situation
    dicknbush did
    "It's Bush's fault."

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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Obama did not create this situation
    dicknbush did
    Obama's failed policies in Egypt, Libya, and Syria are the Saudi's cause of consternation, in spite of your dicknbush obsession.

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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    "It's Bush's fault."
    because of his misguided war, that is fact
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Obama did not create this situation
    dicknbush did
    Exactly, Bush spent $3T to give Iran hegemony over the region by decapitating the Iraqi state. Thanks Bush; Iran would have done it for free.

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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Saudi Arabia and the U.S. have a relationship purely based on quid pro quo. They provide oil, we provide protection. The Saudi's have overestimated what kind of protection they are entitled too in said relationship. They get gulf war style assistance against overt invasion, not needless attacks on Iran or Syria simply because they are Saudi rivals. The president needs to remind the royal family that they don't have the power to make such demands.

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    re: Saudi Arabia warns U.S. that policy on Syria, Iran straining decades-old [W:70]

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Saudi Arabia and the U.S. have a relationship purely based on quid pro quo. They provide oil, we provide protection. The Saudi's have overestimated what kind of protection they are entitled too in said relationship. They get gulf war style assistance against overt invasion, not needless attacks on Iran or Syria simply because they are Saudi rivals. The president needs to remind the royal family that they don't have the power to make such demands.
    i believe he has and that is now why they are publicly pissed
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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