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    'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    WHITE HOUSE OPENS DOOR TO OBAMACARE DELAY - As the federal government teetered on the brink of shutdown at the end of last month, the White House and Senate Democrats flatly refused a Republican emergency spending bill that would have kept the government open but delayed ObamaCare’s requirement that individuals purchase health insurance by March 31 or face a fine. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid responded to a GOP counteroffer by saying Republicans had “lost their minds.” But after an epic failure of a launch for the new health insurance entitlement and with the partial shutdown over, “delay” suddenly isn’t a dirty word anymore. With many of those subject to the fine unable to sign up due to manifold botches in the enrollment process, Democrats are warming up to the idea.[A new ABC/WaPo poll finds 54 percent of respondents believe the problems plaguing ObamaCare’s Web site reflect a larger problem with President Obama’s signature entitlement program.]
    Delay tactics - After President Obama owned up to the fact that the main Web site for enrollment is not working as it should, White House Press Secretary Jay Carneywas asked if the administration is looking for flexibility in applying the mandate. Carney indicated that a delay was not just possible, but that it may already be allowed by the law: “The law is clear that if you do not have access to affordable health insurance then you will not be asked to pay a penalty because you haven’t purchased affordable health insurance.” It would stand to reason that if the president claims the power to delay the fines for large employers by a year, as he already did, he could claim the power to pardon individuals.
    [“Your website is so f***ed we have use the same strategy that we used to salvage the Iraq war?” – Comedy Central’s Jon Stewart discussing President Obama’s announced “tech surge” to repair the ObamaCare Web site.]

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    Although they are stopping short of delaying the individual mandate, it is clear now that the WH is severely nervous about the roll out, and what their tantrum over the shut down, and their refusal to even negotiate the delay is now going to cost them politically.

    This may have turned out to be the most brilliant strategy of the TEA Party to date...Think about it...Cruz, and the rest, have solidly established the republican party as the party against Obamacare, and the individual mandate. Now, it is failing right out of the gate, and those in the know, are saying that there are worse problems as it continues to go into effect. Setting up the antics of demo's, of refusing to talk, name calling, and the whole gambit of basic Alinsky tactics that demo's today employ as reasons NOT to vote for them any time in the future.

    Obama's Job Approval Declines to 44.5% in 19th Quarter

    Poll: Nearly half say replace everyone in Congress

    I think demo's are in for a rough 2014, and 2016...It is possible to see the house majority strengthen, and the loss of the Senate to repub control in 2014, regardless of the MSM running cover for demo's as expected.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Although they are stopping short of delaying the individual mandate, it is clear now that the WH is severely nervous about the roll out, and what their tantrum over the shut down, and their refusal to even negotiate the delay is now going to cost them politically.

    This may have turned out to be the most brilliant strategy of the TEA Party to date...Think about it...Cruz, and the rest, have solidly established the republican party as the party against Obamacare, and the individual mandate. Now, it is failing right out of the gate, and those in the know, are saying that there are worse problems as it continues to go into effect. Setting up the antics of demo's, of refusing to talk, name calling, and the whole gambit of basic Alinsky tactics that demo's today employ as reasons NOT to vote for them any time in the future.

    Obama's Job Approval Declines to 44.5% in 19th Quarter

    Poll: Nearly half say replace everyone in Congress

    I think demo's are in for a rough 2014, and 2016...It is possible to see the house majority strengthen, and the loss of the Senate to repub control in 2014, regardless of the MSM running cover for demo's as expected.

    What say you?
    I hope you're right but I'm not gonna hold my breath that they"ll succeed!

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    So they are willing to delay in the interest of fairness to Americans, rather than partisan politics, and this is news?

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    Obamadon'tcare is the gift that keeps on giving to the GOP. Just wait until more and more people get stuck paying more and getting less from their health insurance. The Dems just keep on digging their hole. Just about all the people that end up on Medicaid would have voted for the Dems without Obamadon'tcare. The people that lose their health insurance, have to pay more for their health insurance, lose their jobs or get their hours cut, well, they know exactly who to blame. And they will.
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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    I hope you're right but I'm not gonna hold my breath that they"ll succeed!
    Well, who knows what the huge majority of "uninformed voters" out there will fall for, but when you have outlets like MSNBC being forced to ask embarrassing questions in the daily presser, as done yesterday by Chuck Todd, I have to hold out hope that we are succeeding at marginalizing the Obama propaganda machine to an extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    So they are willing to delay in the interest of fairness to Americans, rather than partisan politics, and this is news?
    Great spin. LOL. But people having problems with Obamadon'tcare know who is responsible for the disaster. It ain't the GOP.
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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Although they are stopping short of delaying the individual mandate, it is clear now that the WH is severely nervous about the roll out, and what their tantrum over the shut down, and their refusal to even negotiate the delay is now going to cost them politically.

    This may have turned out to be the most brilliant strategy of the TEA Party to date...Think about it...Cruz, and the rest, have solidly established the republican party as the party against Obamacare, and the individual mandate. Now, it is failing right out of the gate, and those in the know, are saying that there are worse problems as it continues to go into effect. Setting up the antics of demo's, of refusing to talk, name calling, and the whole gambit of basic Alinsky tactics that demo's today employ as reasons NOT to vote for them any time in the future.

    Obama's Job Approval Declines to 44.5% in 19th Quarter

    Poll: Nearly half say replace everyone in Congress

    I think demo's are in for a rough 2014, and 2016...It is possible to see the house majority strengthen, and the loss of the Senate to repub control in 2014, regardless of the MSM running cover for demo's as expected.

    What say you?
    Had Ted Cruz and his allies refrained from linking the ACA to government funding and the debt ceiling and simply had the patience and discipline to wait for concrete data to become available, the GOP would have been looking very good with its having expressed concerns about the ACA. They didn't. As a result, even if the President extends deadlines/delays enforcement of the mandate, the GOP will have squandered a tactical and perhaps even strategic policy opportunity all the while racking up huge negatives in recent polling.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    The more angst and ridicule hurled at Cruz you hear, the more you know he's resonating with people and making liberals, and politicians in general, nervous. And I'm not a Ted Cruz person, per se. Just an observation.

    And yes, I think Congress, in general, should be nervous. Over the next few election cycles, you could see many of the long-timers on both sides scraped out of their comfortable seats.

    There's a different kind of Civil War brewing. People are hopping mad at their government like never before. Trust is at an all-time low. Tempers are flaring. Passivity is dropping. Demand for integrity and transparency is increasing. The lies from their government and media, trying to divide everyone at every turn, is childish and disgusting. This just won't do.

    Anyone with half a brain sees that government healthcare is going to be a viral abortion of a program. People don't want it. Not this. They want something ENTIRELY different. They want to start over and re-think the whole thing, and they don't want the government to be in charge of any of it when it's in place.

    This is going to get ugly.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Had Ted Cruz and his allies refrained from linking the ACA to government funding and the debt ceiling and simply had the patience and discipline to wait for concrete data to become available, the GOP would have been looking very good with its having expressed concerns about the ACA. They didn't. As a result, even if the President extends deadlines/delays enforcement of the mandate, the GOP will have squandered a tactical and perhaps even strategic policy opportunity all the while racking up huge negatives in recent polling.
    Ninety percent of the people that voted for Obama wouldn't understand a word you just wrote. They don't watch gubment on TV. That's the problem with your point. They'll vote for the "D" like they always do, because that stands for "Da free stuff!"

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Although they are stopping short of delaying the individual mandate, it is clear now that the WH is severely nervous about the roll out, and what their tantrum over the shut down, and their refusal to even negotiate the delay is now going to cost them politically.

    This may have turned out to be the most brilliant strategy of the TEA Party to date...Think about it...Cruz, and the rest, have solidly established the republican party as the party against Obamacare, and the individual mandate. Now, it is failing right out of the gate, and those in the know, are saying that there are worse problems as it continues to go into effect. Setting up the antics of demo's, of refusing to talk, name calling, and the whole gambit of basic Alinsky tactics that demo's today employ as reasons NOT to vote for them any time in the future.

    Obama's Job Approval Declines to 44.5% in 19th Quarter

    Poll: Nearly half say replace everyone in Congress

    I think demo's are in for a rough 2014, and 2016...It is possible to see the house majority strengthen, and the loss of the Senate to repub control in 2014, regardless of the MSM running cover for demo's as expected.

    What say you?
    I say, if they delay the fine and the individual mandate, the actuaries at insurance companies are going to go into cardiac arrest.

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