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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    [/B]And the $640 million number was what was reported for the one contractor. The only spin here is you trying to spin the number as presented for all contractors, not just the one, which it was originally reported to be.


    https://web.archive.org/web/20131008...-website-cost/

    I find it amusing you keep projecting your own actions of spin onto me, when all I'm doing is simply speaking the truth. I really wish you'd drop the politics in your posting and just start speaking facts.

    I have never spoken to Reid, so I'm not sure why you think I would talk to him.
    If the Federal Govt. with a 17 trillion dollar debt spent one dollar on the healthcare website that is too much. Like most liberals it is always about the accuracy of the number vs. the failures of the Federal Govt. to effectively and cost wise implement any social program successfully but like far too many that doesn't matter because it is always the intent that matters more than the end results.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

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    Conservatives and Republicans believe in states' rights
    No they don't. That's just their excuse to oppose legislation from the other party. Republicans do not support state's rights when it goes against what they want.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    If the Federal Govt. with a 17 trillion dollar debt spent one dollar on the healthcare website that is too much. Like most liberals it is always about the accuracy of the number vs. the failures of the Federal Govt. to effectively and cost wise implement any social program successfully but like far too many that doesn't matter because it is always the intent that matters more than the end results.
    And like most Republicans, you cannot discuss anything without trying to insult people by calling them liberals.

    The fact you think I'm liberal suggests an extremism in your personal politics.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    No they don't. That's just their excuse to oppose legislation from the other party. Republicans do not support state's rights when it goes against what they want.
    And like most Republicans, you cannot discuss anything without trying to insult people by calling them liberals.

    The fact you think I'm liberal suggests an extremism in your personal politics.
    So it is an insult calling someone a liberal? Why then do liberals post that in their leanings. There is nothing wrong with being a liberal other than the fact that they let emotions get in the way of actual reality. The failed results of liberalism are there for all to see, far too many ignore them. If you don't want to be called a liberal then stop acting like one. Respond to the economic results and date instead of your own feelings.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

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    So it is an insult calling someone a liberal?
    That's not what I said. I said you try to use liberal as an insult.

    If you don't want to be called a liberal then stop acting like one.
    I'm not acting like a liberal, I'm just not acting like a political extremist, which is likely why you think I'm liberal.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    That's not what I said. I said you try to use liberal as an insult.

    I'm not acting like a liberal, I'm just not acting like a political extremist, which is likely why you think I'm liberal.
    Good, then I am getting my point across as most liberal actions are an insult to intelligence and ignores actual results. You think promoting personal responsibility is being an political extremist? How about having healthcare as a state issue?

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

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    Good, then I am getting my point across as most liberal actions are an insult to intelligence and ignores actual results.
    Like I said before, like most Republicans you cannot discuss things without trying to insult people by calling them liberal.

    You think promoting personal responsibility is being an political extremist?
    No, but arguing we should not spend a single dollar to implement a sweeping reform of healthcare is politically extreme.

    How about having healthcare as a state issue?
    I would say anytime someone wishes to keep an obviously flawed and broken status quo simply to achieve their personal politics is most definitely an extreme position.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Like I said before, like most Republicans you cannot discuss things without trying to insult people by calling them liberal.

    No, but arguing we should not spend a single dollar to implement a sweeping reform of healthcare is politically extreme.

    I would say anytime someone wishes to keep an obviously flawed and broken status quo simply to achieve their personal politics is most definitely an extreme position.
    I grew up a liberal, believed in much of what is being promoted today until I grew out of it. I have no problem insulting how I was because facts trump liberal rhetoric.

    You don't think a 17 trillion dollar debt is politically extreme? How much of that debt is healthcare related and what is the role of the Federal govt. in healthcare?

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    That's not what I said. I said you try to use liberal as an insult.

    I'm not acting like a liberal, I'm just not acting like a political extremist, which is likely why you think I'm liberal.
    Extremists never think they are acting like extremists. They believe, for example, that the government can do a good job running a health care system, despite a $17,000,000,000,000.00 debt that is growing daily. The government can't even protect the border, nor set up a computer system despite spending millions of dollars, and now you want them in charge of your health?

    That would seem to be a very foolish idea. In fact an extremely foolish idea.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Extremists never think they are acting like extremists. They believe, for example, that the government can do a good job running a health care system, despite a $17,000,000,000,000.00 debt that is growing daily. The government can't even protect the border, nor set up a computer system despite spending millions of dollars, and now you want them in charge of your health?

    That would seem to be a very foolish idea. In fact an extremely foolish idea.
    But a non-extremist would realize Obamacare does not put the government in charge of your healthcare, but rather provide standards insurers must adhere to in order to provide a basic coverage. They'd also know the Obamacare website is simply a web-based market for people to browse various insurance plans. They'd know the required sign-up is so the government knows if you're eligible for a subsidy.

    A non-extremist would also know a large part of the $17t in debt is owed to ourselves, that a debt has nothing to do with how well an entity can run a particular subject and that a website is nothing like a border.

    So...which are you?

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Nah, it's because you're giddy over the problems. Nobody, not even Obama knew there would be problems. Nobody but Max Baucus knew. He was the only-est one. And the software engineers. They knew. And Sebelius. And the insurance providers. But other than that, nobody knew.
    Yes, and everyone that knew, that tried to warn the administration, was ignored.
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    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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