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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    You're willing to run with facts...and yet, you doubt it when the facts have been reported. Got it.

    I'm not spinning anything. The website is awful, no doubt about it. And it's because of the terrible quality that Democrats/Obama are looking to temporarily delay enforcing the penalties for not signing up in time.

    Again, you seem to misunderstand presenting facts as "spin".

    LOL. You provide an example of what one company claims to have been paid and think that is the total cost? LOL. Then you cite TheBlaze yet they claim the government did not provide them the total cost of the project, LOL.

    You're spinning everything. The website didn't crash after Sen Cruz called for a delay. He had the right idea all along while your clowns put on political theater.
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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. You provide an example of what one company claims to have been paid and think that is the total cost? LOL. Then you cite TheBlaze yet they claim the government did not provide them the total cost of the project, LOL.

    You're spinning everything. The website didn't crash after Sen Cruz called for a delay. He had the right idea all along while your clowns put on political theater.
    Absolutely spot on! Demo's wanted NO involvement from repubs during the crafting of the bill, that btw, in addition to insurance companies being involved, much like the fox being given the key to the henhouse, a large part of the bill, that has yet to be imposed are the components that didn't involve insurance companies.

    Involvement of Van Jones, and his "Apollo alliance" group in writing key parts of this bill are designed to specifically attack capitalism, and go after this as a top down control of a large piece of the economy, and peoples lives.

    Bills should not be this long. 2700 pages that no one really understands until you start implementing it, and by then it's too late, or so is the hope by progressives.
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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    If Obama delays, he was wrong..
    If he doesn't delay, he is wrong..
    See how that narrative works??
    What's it like to work against something 24/7, instead of for it ?
    Yes, we see how that narrative works. That's what happens when people insist on making a bad idea law. This disaster cannot be corrected with additional time or money, it will just be another example of government throwing good money after bad.
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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Delays in a CR, brought to you by the GOP..
    Boehner puts a Farm bill on the floor, the TEAcaucus forces him to pull it..
    Same with Transportation..where are the jobs Boehner ?
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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Delays in a CR, brought to you by the GOP..
    Boehner puts a Farm bill on the floor, the TEAcaucus forces him to pull it..
    Same with Transportation..where are the jobs Boehner ?
    Obama and the Dems got rid of those. But you can visit a web site they created, to bad it doesn't work though. As expected and predicted in the rare case of a democrat talking and not lying.
    "“If we don’t deepen our ports all along the Gulf — places like Charleston, South Carolina; or Savannah, Georgia; or Jacksonville, Florida…” -Obama

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Obama and the Dems got rid of those. But you can visit a web site they created, to bad it doesn't work though. As expected and predicted in the rare case of a democrat talking and not lying.
    What is amazing is that liberals are defending a law that is supported by about 40% of the public and surprised that the GOP is trying to defund or repeal it. That just goes to show that there is no logic in the liberal mind. Interesting how laws that have 40% approval ratings that the liberals don't like are fair game to be attacked but it isn't right when it is a law that they support. That is known as being a hypocrite

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Delays in a CR, brought to you by the GOP..
    Boehner puts a Farm bill on the floor, the TEAcaucus forces him to pull it..
    Same with Transportation..where are the jobs Boehner ?
    Is the farm bill about jobs? Or food stamps?....
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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yes. Republicans want to ultimately to repeal Obamacare because they believe it is unfair to the citizenry.
    But we're not talking about that, we're talking about the reasons for wanting to delay the legislation. The Republicans wish to delay it because it works to achieve their political position of repealing Obamacare. The Democrats delaying it does NOT achieve their political position of instituting Obamacare, in fact, it goes against it. The delay for Democrats is to provide fairness to those required to sign up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I think you need to recalibrate, because you seem to be completely of the rails, in left wing territory.
    Nope. I'm simply speaking in logic and facts and for that you are calling me a liberal/lefty when I most certainly am not. I can only assume then you believe logic and facts to belong exclusively to liberals/leftys.
    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Even if it was 10k of tax payer money, the thing does not work, and the only real way to make it work would be to restart from scratch.
    What does that have to do, in any way, with the discussion we were having? I pointed out how the $640 million number is completely false. That was it.

    So, where are your calls for heads to roll on this one??
    Unlike you, I don't believe people should be fired simply because other people didn't do their job. I do not have enough information about where exactly the problems existed to know who dropped the ball.

    Why are you so interested in having people fired? Does it make you giddy to know someone's livelihood is ruined, or at the very least, delayed? Does it make you happy to know someone is much less able to provide for their family?

    Then again, there are some that seem to feel that rule of law is an archaic concept best discarded in the name of progress. (not necessarily you)
    Yes, I believe that describes the Republican position on shutting down the government over Obamacare quite well. Well said.
    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. You provide an example of what one company claims to have been paid and think that is the total cost? LOL. Then you cite TheBlaze yet they claim the government did not provide them the total cost of the project, LOL.
    No, I provided an example of how the total cost was not $640 million for the website on the first day it opened. The fact you're trying to twist words shows you know have a losing position.

    You're spinning everything.
    Cute.

    The website didn't crash after Sen Cruz called for a delay. He had the right idea all along while your clowns put on political theater.
    The right idea is to not have the government do its job, put thousands of people in an uncertain position with their job, cause billions of dollars of damage to the economy, put us at risk for a credit downgrade and possibly trigger a worldwide economic collapse?

    Wow, if you think that's the right thing to do, then I hope you never become a politician.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    But we're not talking about that, we're talking about the reasons for wanting to delay the legislation. The Republicans wish to delay it because it works to achieve their political position of repealing Obamacare. The Democrats delaying it does NOT achieve their political position of instituting Obamacare, in fact, it goes against it. The delay for Democrats is to provide fairness to those required to sign up.
    to suggest there are no political calculations going on here from the WH is both naive and laughable to the extreme.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    to suggest there are no political calculations going on here from the WH is both naive and laughable to the extreme.
    That's not what I said, and I've already said earlier in this thread that is not the case. But the political calculation, in this instance, is to avoid political harm by forcing unfair and unreasonable measures. If the website was working perfectly, the Democrats would not want (and not give) an extension.

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